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Hello! Thomas, Jim and I met earlier this week. We are making a

 

special offer to our e-group members--as a gesture of appreciation.

 

Following this message is the text of the offer.

 

 

 

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will automatically be entered into a prize drawing. Order before

 

December 15, 2003, and you and your friend will be eligible to win

 

one of these fine travel books (listed alphabetically):

 

 

 

 

 

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(Retail price $19.95)

 

 

 

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Guest Mike Ward

Maybe someone who has the ear of Disney/Pixar could explain to them that there

 

are no saguaro cacti to be found growing anywhere along Route 66. They are only

 

found growing in the Sonoran Desert. Check the web site at

 

www.desertusa.com/july96/du_saguaro.html<http://www.desertusa.com/july96/du_sagu

 

aro.html>. I know that the saguaro is used as a representative example of cacti

 

found in the American Southwest but if Disney/Pixar is going to be

 

horticulturally correct they need to change to something found a little further

 

north.

 

 

 

Mike

 

----- Original Message -----

 

From: Jim Conkle<mailto:jim@cart66pf.org>

 

To: Route66@Yahoogroups. Com<mailto:Route66@Yahoogroups.%20Com> ;

 

<mailto:SB2005@yahoogroups.com> ;

 

AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups. Com<mailto:AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.%20Com>

 

Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2004 8:06 PM

 

Subject: [route66] FW: Trailers for Cars (2005)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

My son Chris found this and I thought that all of you would like to see it

 

too. It is a preview of Disney/Pixar's 'CARS'

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

James M Conkle

 

 

 

Executive Director & Chairman of the Board

 

 

 

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Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2004 1:11 PM

 

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Guest Bob Worley

--- Mike Ward <flyboy@roadmaps.org> wrote:

 

> Maybe someone who has the ear of Disney/Pixar could explain to them that

 

> there are no saguaro cacti to be found growing anywhere along Route 66.

 

> They are only found growing in the Sonoran Desert.

 

 

 

 

 

You mean all those Road Runner cartoons were filmed in the Sonoran desert?

 

And all this time I thought it was Monument Valley. Well, you learn

 

something new everday.

 

 

 

Oh yea... somebody tell the Pixar folks that cars and trucks don't have

 

eyeballs and can't talk either...

 

 

 

Meep! meep!

 

 

 

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Guest Chris

Ahh that's funny. Next you'll tell us that "ACME" supply is just an

 

off-shore front for Halliburton!

 

 

 

...Chris

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

--- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, Bob Worley

 

<bwcobra15@y...> wrote:

 

>

 

> --- Mike Ward <flyboy@r...> wrote:

 

> > Maybe someone who has the ear of Disney/Pixar could

 

explain to them that

 

> > there are no saguaro cacti to be found growing anywhere

 

along Route 66.

 

> > They are only found growing in the Sonoran Desert.

 

>

 

>

 

> You mean all those Road Runner cartoons were filmed in the

 

Sonoran desert?

 

> And all this time I thought it was Monument Valley. Well, you

 

learn

 

> something new everday.

 

>

 

> Oh yea... somebody tell the Pixar folks that cars and trucks

 

don't have

 

> eyeballs and can't talk either...

 

>

 

> Meep! meep!

 

>

 

> LoneStarBob

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

> __________________________________

 

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Guest Chris

I set up my cafepress shops, but don't give them the attention

 

they deserve. They are on my "when I get round tuit" list.

 

 

 

Your mousepad and lunchbox look great. For a greeting card you

 

might caption, "having a wonderfull time, wish you were here" . . .

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

--- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, Shellee Graham

 

<SHELLEE66@E...> wrote:

 

>

 

> Want to see lots of NEW designs, merchandise for the CORAL

 

COURT MOTEL?

 

>

 

> Just designed some COOL stuff in the past week. Check it out

 

at--

 

> http://www.cafepress.com/coralcourt

 

>

 

> I think I like the lunchbox. Any feedback is appreciated (neg or

 

pos). I

 

> want to know what is good, what could be better. My boyfriend

 

Mr. Ross had a

 

> good comment about the lunchbox: he said it looks like a girls

 

lunchbox.

 

> Maybe that's OK. I dunno. :) Let me know.

 

>

 

> See ya later. Thankya.

 

>

 

> Shelvis

 

>

 

> P.S. I may do some tweaking on the ornaments

 

> AND do some new holiday cards...any

 

> suggestions on the card idea?

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Guest R. Droz

Been by the websites dealing with Washington State Highways?

 

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___________________________________________________________

 

Happy Motoring! _._._._.____~__

 

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U.S. Highways : From US 1 to (US 830) [________/____[_|__

 

http://www.us-highways.com/ ()() ()() ()

 

Route Logs - Standard Oil - Highway Makeover - Pics - Maps

 

 

 

 

 

> -----Original Message-----

 

> From: Raymond [mailto:jeffersoncanyon@yahoo.com]

 

> Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2004 8:53 PM

 

> To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com

 

> Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Introduction

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

> I'm from Washington State and have an interest in old US 10 and 12,

 

> as well as the Yellowstone Trail. Roadtrips aren't the same on the

 

> interstate--don't get a feel for the land and the people. The

 

> freeways have taken the adventure and romance out of automobile

 

> travel just as jet airliners contributed to the demise of the

 

> passenger train. Our 2-lane highways are one of our greatest

 

> treasures!

 

>

 

> Ray Alkofer

 

> Yakima, Wa

 

>

 

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Guest Michael G. Koerner

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/w...,1,6101639.stor

 

y

 

 

 

Joliet Road near La Grange called too unstable to repair

 

 

 

By Virginia Groark

 

Tribune staff reporter

 

Published November 17, 2004

 

 

 

Thousands of trucks and cars must continue to divert off Joliet Road

 

near La Grange (it's in the Village of McCook, IL - MGK) because the

 

state has decided it isn't feasible to reopen the main thoroughfare,

 

which once handled 20,000 vehicles before it was closed in 1998.

 

 

 

The Illinois Department of Transportation made its decision after

 

experts concluded the milelong stretch between 55th Street and East

 

Avenue remained unstable and would be too costly to repair and maintain,

 

officials said.

 

 

 

[see link for rest of article]

 

 

 

-------------------------

 

 

 

This is part of former US 66 just southwest of the General Motors

 

Electro-Motive Division locomotive plant. Sad to see it go, despite its

 

'industrial-gritty' setting.

 

 

 

--

 

___________________________________________ ____ _______________

 

Regards, | | ____

 

| | | | |

 

Michael G. Koerner May they | | | | | | rise again!

 

Appleton, Wisconsin USA | | | | | |

 

___________________________________________ | | | | | | _______________

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Guest kiragale

Does anyone know if the stretch of US 12 between Lewiston and

 

Missoula is officially designated as a Lewis and Clark Highway? If

 

so, by whom, and how can I confirm it? Do you know of any other

 

officially designated Lewis and Clark Highways?

 

Thanks

 

Kira Gale

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Guest Valli Hoski

Is the Cozy Dog still open?

 

 

 

One more moment of fame for the Cozy Dog - the owner is the brother of Bob

 

Waldmire, the artist of those wonderful maps of Rt. 66, with the teeny-tiny

 

details and wonderful sense of humor.

 

 

 

Safe travels, Valli

 

>Date: Sat, 03 Dec 2005 14:23:16 -0000

 

>From: "roaddog_rt66" <roaddog_rt66@yahoo.com>

 

>Subject: Weird Drivers in Illinois

 

 

 

>Two blocks north of it, you will find the Cozy Dog, a Route

 

66 "must" since the 40s and serving up great breakfasts and, of

 

course, the World Famous Cozy Dog.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Valli Hoski

 

GT-PFRC digest only: vallihoski@yahoo.com

 

Ham radio only: N8QVT@arrl.net

 

Direct email address: valli@myfastmail.com

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Guest Mike Ward

I am forwarding this e-mail to the group members in case any of them would be

 

interested in getting one of Mark's "Lost Highways" posters. It is a great

 

piece of road reference material and I refer to mine quite frequently when

 

looking up information on an old "signed trail".

 

 

 

Check it out at his web site. You'll be glad you did.

 

 

 

Mike

 

----- Original Message -----

 

From: Mark Everhart<mailto:everhart@qwest.net>

 

To: Roadmaps<mailto:roadmaps-l@roadmaps.org>

 

Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2005 11:01 PM

 

Subject: RM: A "Lost Highways" Christmas

 

 

 

 

 

Yes, it's that time of year again! It's Christmas shopping season already!

 

 

 

I'd just like to remind you once again of a great gift idea, if you're

 

still looking: The "Lost Highways" poster! It remains probably the

 

greatest Auto Trails Poster of the Motoring Era! It's historic. It's

 

artistic. It's decorative (suitable for framing). It's just darned

 

neat! Just ask any of the scores of people who own one - including a

 

number of libraries, museums and universities. (And many thanks to my

 

prior customers here!)

 

 

 

I still have a number of these beauties left. (And, yes, I'm STILL in

 

the red on this little labor of love. The good news is that after more

 

than five years of plugging, I only have about ten more to sell to

 

finally break even!)

 

 

 

SO: The RMCA/roadmaps-l member discount of 10% is back in effect!

 

 

 

Keeping it simple, that makes it a grand total of $16.00 (postage &

 

handling included) delivered to your mailbox First Class in a sturdy

 

mailing tube! Idahoans need to add $0.80 sales tax, Canadians add

 

$1.50, please. Throw in $3.00 more if you want the speed of Priority

 

Mail. Just mention the code: "RMCA/R-L" in your order.

 

 

 

PayPal, checks, or money orders accepted. If you want more than one (to

 

the same address in the same tube), additional posters will be just

 

$12.75 each.

 

 

 

Orders received by me by Dec.17th will be processed immediately and

 

should arrive at your door in time for Christmas giving.

 

 

 

You may view it at:

 

http://www.users.qwest.net/~everhart/highways.htm<http://www.users.qwest.net/~ev

 

erhart/highways.htm>

 

 

 

OK, that's my plug. Happy Holidays, everybody! Thanks for your attention!

 

 

 

Mark Everhart 217

 

PayPal ID: <mailto:everhart@qwest.net>

 

 

 

Mailing address: 9432 W. River Beach Ln., Boise, ID 83714

 

--

 

Mark R. Everhart

 

Boise, Idaho

 

See the "Lost Highways" Poster at:

 

http://www.users.qwest.net/~everhart/highways.htm<http://www.users.qwest.net/~ev

 

erhart/highways.htm>

 

 

 

--

 

Mark R. Everhart

 

Boise, Idaho

 

See the "Lost Highways" Poster at:

 

http://www.users.qwest.net/~everhart/highways.htm<http://www.users.qwest.net/~ev

 

erhart/highways.htm>

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Guest Denny Gibson

I'm one of those "scores of people who own one" and echo Mike's words. It is

 

a great piece of road reference material and it's also an attractive poster.

 

And, it's a bargain, too.

 

 

 

Denny Gibson

 

Cincinnati, OH

 

www.DennyGibson.com

 

 

 

> -----Original Message-----

 

> From: Mike Ward [mailto:flyboy1946@hotmail.com]

 

> Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 6:33 PM

 

> To: American Road; Route 66 E-group; Route 66 News

 

> Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Fw: A "Lost Highways" Christmas

 

>

 

>

 

> I am forwarding this e-mail to the group members in case any of

 

> them would be interested in getting one of Mark's "Lost Highways"

 

> posters. It is a great piece of road reference material and I

 

> refer to mine quite frequently when looking up information on an

 

> old "signed trail".

 

>

 

> Check it out at his web site. You'll be glad you did.

 

>

 

> Mike

 

> ----- Original Message -----

 

> From: Mark Everhart<mailto:everhart@qwest.net>

 

> To: Roadmaps<mailto:roadmaps-l@roadmaps.org>

 

> Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2005 11:01 PM

 

> Subject: RM: A "Lost Highways" Christmas

 

>

 

>

 

> Yes, it's that time of year again! It's Christmas shopping

 

> season already!

 

>

 

> I'd just like to remind you once again of a great gift idea, if you're

 

> still looking: The "Lost Highways" poster! It remains probably the

 

> greatest Auto Trails Poster of the Motoring Era! It's historic. It's

 

> artistic. It's decorative (suitable for framing). It's just darned

 

> neat! Just ask any of the scores of people who own one - including a

 

> number of libraries, museums and universities. (And many thanks to my

 

> prior customers here!)

 

>

 

> I still have a number of these beauties left. (And, yes, I'm STILL in

 

> the red on this little labor of love. The good news is that after more

 

> than five years of plugging, I only have about ten more to sell to

 

> finally break even!)

 

>

 

> SO: The RMCA/roadmaps-l member discount of 10% is back in effect!

 

>

 

> Keeping it simple, that makes it a grand total of $16.00 (postage &

 

> handling included) delivered to your mailbox First Class in a sturdy

 

> mailing tube! Idahoans need to add $0.80 sales tax, Canadians add

 

> $1.50, please. Throw in $3.00 more if you want the speed of Priority

 

> Mail. Just mention the code: "RMCA/R-L" in your order.

 

>

 

> PayPal, checks, or money orders accepted. If you want more than one (to

 

> the same address in the same tube), additional posters will be just

 

> $12.75 each.

 

>

 

> Orders received by me by Dec.17th will be processed immediately and

 

> should arrive at your door in time for Christmas giving.

 

>

 

> You may view it at:

 

> <http://www.users

 

> .qwest.net/~everhart/highways.htm>

 

>

 

> OK, that's my plug. Happy Holidays, everybody! Thanks for your

 

> attention!

 

>

 

> Mark Everhart 217

 

> PayPal ID: <mailto:everhart@qwest.net>

 

>

 

> Mailing address: 9432 W. River Beach Ln., Boise, ID 83714

 

> --

 

> Mark R. Everhart

 

> Boise, Idaho

 

> See the "Lost Highways" Poster at:

 

> <http://www.users

 

.qwest.net/~everhart/highways.htm>

 

 

 

--

 

Mark R. Everhart

 

Boise, Idaho

 

See the "Lost Highways" Poster at:

 

<http://www.users.qwest.net

 

/~everhart/highways.htm>

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Guest Jill Livingston

Since I guess it's ok to be a little bit commercial on this email list (at

 

least at this most commercial time of year!) I would also like to suggest

 

our US99 ball caps as gift items. Below you will find a link to a photo and

 

ordering info. Thanks. (PS I love the posters too!)

 

 

 

http://www.livinggoldpress.com/merc.htm

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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>(save $3.85 off the newsstand price!)

 

>2 years (8 issues) for $27.95

 

>(save $11.65 off the newsstand price!)

 

>

 

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Guest David G. Clark

The Cozy is definitely still open, thriving in fact, it seems. Bob

 

Waldmire's brother Buzz has little to do with the Cozy anymore. His

 

ex-wife Sue is now the owner, and she is doing a great job keeping the

 

place open and operating.

 

 

 

Dave Clark

 

Windy City Road Warrior

 

 

 

--- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, Valli Hoski <vallihoski@y...> wrote:

 

>

 

> Is the Cozy Dog still open?

 

>

 

> One more moment of fame for the Cozy Dog - the owner is the

 

brother of Bob Waldmire, the artist of those wonderful maps of Rt. 66,

 

with the teeny-tiny details and wonderful sense of humor.

 

>

 

> Safe travels, Valli

 

> >Date: Sat, 03 Dec 2005 14:23:16 -0000

 

> >From: "roaddog_rt66" <roaddog_rt66@y...>

 

> >Subject: Weird Drivers in Illinois

 

>

 

> >Two blocks north of it, you will find the Cozy Dog, a Route

 

> 66 "must" since the 40s and serving up great breakfasts and, of

 

> course, the World Famous Cozy Dog.

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

> Valli Hoski

 

> GT-PFRC digest only: vallihoski@y...

 

> Ham radio only: N8QVT@a...

 

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>

 

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Guest Bakerhab@aol.com

Here's a January 18, 2004, article from the Las Vegas (NV) Review-Journal on

 

the Goffs Schoolhouse Museum and Cultural Center on Route 66 in Goffs,

 

California. The reporter was at the schoolhouse the first weekend in January

 

2004.

 

Nice article, nice mention of Route 66, but again, as the open house

 

coordinator, I am disappointed that she did not list our website address

 

(www.mdhca.org) or any way to contact the association, either by email

 

(info@mdhca.org) or

 

by telephone (760-733-4482). FYI: The PT group that she refers to is from

 

Bullhead City, AZ and they are visiting today.

 

 

 

Helen Baker

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sunday, January 18, 2004

 

Las Vegas Review-Journal

 

 

 

TRIP OF THE WEEK: Goffs a forgotten town that's now drawing visitors

 

 

 

Dozens of trains a day roll through old Goffs on the double tracks of the

 

Burlington Northern and Santa Fe Railroad across the Mojave Desert in

 

California.

 

None of them stop there these days. They no longer need the facilities of

 

little trackside watering stops such as Goffs.

 

 

 

Diminished, but not forgotten, Goffs today serves other purposes. The ghost

 

town marks a major entry point for the vast Mojave National Preserve. It lies

 

along a well-kept portion of historic Route 66, drawing a growing number of

 

road enthusiasts. It boasts a cultural center and museum housed in a beautifully

 

restored mission-style schoolhouse and extensive outdoor historical displays.

 

 

 

Located about 30 miles from the Colorado River, Goffs occupies the top of a

 

gradual rise in open arid country, noted when survey and mapping parties

 

crossed the Mojave Desert in the mid-1800s. Free of steep grades and mountain

 

passes, the route proved favorable when the railroad sought routes in the 1870s.

 

By

 

1883, the Southern Pacific built the line, establishing Goffs to service the

 

trains. The railroad built a depot in 1902.

 

 

 

Lanfair Road, heading northward from Goffs, roughly parallels another

 

railroad, now disappeared. From 1893 to 1927, the Nevada Southern short line

 

railroad

 

ran to Searchlight, then central to many active mines. Today, Lanfair Road

 

forms part of a network of remote roads accessing the rugged landscapes of the

 

Mojave National Preserve.

 

 

 

To reach Goffs, about 110 miles from Las Vegas, drive south on U.S. 95 toward

 

Needles. Where the highway crosses the railroad tracks, watch for the

 

well-marked junction with historic Route 66, the original paved highway across

 

the

 

Mojave Desert. On a recent Sunday, Goffs welcomed a road rally of PT Cruisers,

 

just one of many groups making nostalgia runs along portions of old Route 66.

 

 

 

After the railroads converted to diesel locomotives, which did not require

 

the frequent watering stops needed by steam-powered trains, towns such as Goffs

 

began to decline. However, Goffs could still rely on the U.S. 66 traffic to

 

generate business for its garages, filling stations, hotel and eateries. That

 

changed when the highway was relocated a few miles south in 1931.

 

 

 

Today, the handsome restored one-room schoolhouse built in 1914 appears much

 

as it did when constructed by San Bernardino County. It stands as the only

 

reminder of the days when Goffs was home to a couple of hundred people and

 

served

 

a larger population scattered over a huge area. The building doubled as a

 

community center and lending library after school for grades one through eight.

 

 

 

Children attended Goffs School until 1937. The building thereafter fell into

 

private hands. Sometimes lived in, often vacant, the building gradually

 

deteriorated. A couple acquiring it for a home in the 1980s began serious

 

reconstruction, saving the classroom roof from caving in. Repairs continued when

 

Mojave

 

Desert expert and champion Dennis Casebier and his wife bought the school and

 

surrounding acreage in 1990. Casebier brought along his extensive library of

 

books, maps and research concentrating on the Mojave Desert and its history.

 

 

 

The new owners envisioned restoring the schoolhouse to its original state,

 

using historic photos and plans. The sturdy building of wood frame covered by

 

stucco over steel mesh had generous porches for shade, expansive windows for

 

light into the 800 square foot classroom and a fenced acre of playground.

 

 

 

The Casebiers knew they couldn't do it alone. They worked to create the

 

Mojave Desert Heritage and Cultural Association in 1993. In 2001, Goffs

 

Schoolhouse

 

attained listing on the National Register of Historic Places as a result of

 

work done by a graduate class from the University of Nevada, Las Vegas.

 

 

 

Now owned by the volunteer, nonprofit group, the museum opens for visitation

 

the first weekend of each month except July, August and September. The

 

schoolhouse museum continues to add materials to its archives and artifacts to

 

its

 

impressive collections. Research includes recording first person historical

 

accounts alluding to the area. The future of the once-derelict schoolhouse now

 

looks bright.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Margo Bartlett Pesek's Trip of the Week column appears Sundays.

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Greetings Shellee,

 

 

 

Hope that you get to feeling better soon!

 

 

 

Here's a good forum designed to post goodies that you have for sale:

 

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Hope to see you on the Two Lane's soon!

 

God Bless and Happy Trails.

 

 

 

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eBay

 

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notably:

 

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NEEDLES DESERT STAR

 

'Rehabilitationaˆ™ to be focus of El Garces efforts

 

 

 

Dec. 29, 2004

 

 

 

By LEE CHOQUETTE

 

News West

 

NEEDLES aˆ” Rehabilitation, not restoration, should be the watchword for future

 

development of the historic El Garces railroad depot, according to a man who

 

reopened another former Harvey House as a functioning hotel and restaurant.

 

The Needles city council recently authorized city manager Richard Rowe to

 

secure the services of Allan Affeldt, owner and manager of La Posada Hotel in

 

Winslow, Ariz.

 

 

 

Like El Garces, La Posada was part of the chain developed by Fred Harvey, and

 

it had also fallen into disrepair in recent times, until Affeldt reopened it.

 

Rowe reported on his conversations with Affeldt at the general membership

 

meeting of the Needles Area Chamber of Commerce on Dec. 9.

 

 

 

The city council had earlier agreed that El Garces should be developed into

 

an upscale hotel and restaurant, and people today do not expect to share a

 

bathroom with the other guests in the hallway at an upscale hotel, said Rowe.

 

 

 

Therefore Affeldt had suggested rehabilitation rather than restoration, or

 

making the facility functional rather than an exact replica of its former self.

 

 

 

El Garces will also include a significant transit component, since the

 

federal grant paying for its rehabilitation is tied to transportation. Buses

 

will

 

stop there and it is hoped that passenger trains will once again call there.

 

 

 

Barbara DeGidio emphasized that the work being done on El Garces is funded

 

mostly by federal grants and not out of the city budget. The grant requires a 20

 

percent match, according to Rowe, but this amount need not be in cash. The

 

time that city staff spend on the project, as well as any amount paid to

 

Affeldt for his consulting services, count toward the 20 percent match,

 

according to

 

Rowe. All hard, out-of-pocket expenses are coming out of the other 80

 

percent. Congress approved an additional $1 million for El Garces last month,

 

bringing the total amount appropriated to about $5.5 million, according to Rowe.

 

 

 

With Affeldtaˆ™s interest in moving the project along, Rowe expects at least

 

some part of El Garces to be open within two years.

 

 

 

 

 

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It doesn't take much to get me going, at least in my mind. The writer

 

mentioned an upcoming trip on US 40 which right away makes me

 

think of George Stewart's classic book US 40. I first came across

 

this book browsing the library shelves back in the 60s as a teen

 

and it has stuck with me since, I finally picked up my own copy

 

about 15 years ago. I still have not seen US 40 Revisited which

 

uses the before and after or then and now type of format to

 

document the changes of several decades. For anyone taking

 

an in depth trip on this road or any other for that matter this

 

book is a must, Stewart shows you new ways to better see and

 

understand what is passing by the windows of your motorcar.

 

 

 

But you don't have to leave home to feed your highway jones,

 

the view from my window includes I-5 and I can infer three

 

more alignments of the west coast artery, the original route

 

of the Pacific Highway and two later US 99 routes. For a few

 

years in the late 1920s the Pacific Highway was billed as

 

"the world's longest paved highway" at somewhere around

 

1600 miles from Canada to Mexico. Since Mock Turtle Press

 

has a Lynnwood WA address (US 99) this may be a matter

 

of more than passing interest to the people there. Maybe

 

somebody there could give an update on the status of one

 

of the finest old gas stations in the galaxy, Keelers Korner.

 

Jerry Shinn who has owned it since the 70s put it up for

 

sale last year as he felt he was neglecting it. If any

 

gas station is deserving of historic preservation

 

status this one is but as far as I know this has not

 

happened yet, at least not with any teeth in it.

 

Keelers Korner is located on old 99 north of

 

Lynnwood and may also be seen in various

 

petroliana books.

 

 

 

The rationale for all this rambling on is the open invitation

 

to write about any highway. It's easy to do if you have the

 

patience, it makes having the TV on a bit more justifiable,

 

or sitting in front of a monitor for hours as far as that goes.

 

 

 

One of my early favorite highways was in a sandpile in the

 

front yard. I had a Hubley cast metal semi-trailer rig, the

 

trailer is still here, it's doors disappeared years ago along

 

with the tractor, a replacement would likely run in the low

 

three digits. One thing that I remember from road building

 

in the sand was how I would take a metal can and use it as

 

a form for building an overpass. The sand should be damp so

 

you can compact it, wiggle the can to loosen it and carefully

 

pull it out and there you go, one overpass. Other early road

 

related memories come from the influence of my dad who

 

would point out 'the old road' and even drive on abandoned

 

fragments sometimes. Since those early days cement

 

concrete has been my pavement of choice. As we all

 

know the vintage concrete is fast becoming a scarce

 

commodity. Modern traffic loads and older design

 

standards are incompatible in the minds of too

 

many highway engineers it would seem. Here in

 

Washington two major segments of the Pacific

 

Highway were lost recently due to massive and

 

drastic realignment. It is getting harder and

 

harder to experience a real 1920s or 30s road.

 

Hopefully American Road magazine will prove

 

to be instrumental in counteracting the

 

chronic forces of cultural amnesia.

 

 

 

Pardon my glove, it's fun to lay it on real thick just

 

like the way people do when they rhapsodize all

 

romantic about the old roads. The deal is they

 

are usually talking about the roadside with its

 

colorful commercial architecture (what's left

 

of it) and the actual road gets the back seat.

 

For me there has always been visceral (gut level)

 

pleasure in moving through space by automobile.

 

I knew the inherent rightness of a banked curve

 

long long before I ever learned of superelevation.

 

 

 

As a child sometimes I would lie on my back on

 

the 'package tray' under the rear window of our

 

1950 Ford Custom Six two door sedan and watch

 

the electrical lines rise and fall, this was before

 

seat belts obviously. I had the route from Tacoma

 

to Seattle and back all memorized at an early age

 

and would watch for the various landmarks. One

 

of these was two large spherical tanks at Boeing

 

Plant Two on E Marginal Way and many years

 

later I learned they are for a wind tunnel next

 

to the model shop. One tank is pumped void

 

of air, then air from the other tank enters through

 

a fairly small aperture at high speed for a few

 

seconds. And of course just up the road is the

 

spectacular Hat 'n Boots gas station where

 

sometimes I could get my dad to stop and fill up.

 

Obviously the roads are in my blood and I would

 

not have it any other way.

 

 

 

Speaking of US 40 I have long wondered what remains

 

to be seen of the original National Road, I suspect there

 

may still be parts of it around but I have not got the low

 

down on this yet. Meanwhile, Happy Motoring, Dave

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i didnt know there was a group to join till a couple of days ago---wexcellent;

 

and in time for kent and mary sue sanderson's sweetheart cruise down us 40!

 

tsingdao aqnd excellent travels down ALL the old highways...kip, quinn and

 

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U S 63 was run into Memphis in the 1930's and

 

continued such until it was discontinued in 1999.

 

Probably at that time it was co-signed west on I-40 to

 

AR 11, U S 70 and whatever down into LA. Doesn't make

 

much sense - but that's Arkansas for you, as my

 

daughter says (she's married to an Arky, so should

 

know!! LOL)

 

 

 

Hudsonly,

 

Alex B

 

 

 

--- Rudyard Welborn <r.Welborn@worldnet.ATT.net>

 

wrote:

 

> Just to thorw my two cents in: the 1955 Rand McNally

 

> Atlas has U.S. 63

 

> following 61 into Memphis but it looks like it ends

 

> right after crossing the

 

> river. That did not last; I recall going to Memphis

 

> with my parents

 

> starting in the late 60's and by that time 63 ended

 

> at the intersection with

 

> I-55. The extension into Louisiana is a relatively

 

> new concoction; it comes

 

> extremely close to Memphis but appears to veers west

 

> at W. Memphis before

 

> its trek south. A fairly old map of Ark that I have

 

> has 61 following the

 

> path of what is now SR77 through Jericho, Marion and

 

> into W. Memphis; in

 

> light of the fact that 77 starts right where 61

 

> enters onto I-55, that makes

 

> sense. You need to continue your 61 trek into

 

> Mississippi; it will take you

 

> to Clarksdale and through the land of the Delta

 

> Blues...when in Memphi

 

> remember 1) ham is country cured; 2) cornbread is

 

> not sweet, and 3) tea

 

> is...Tsingtao, Kip

 

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> > > I was posting some of the pictures I took of

 

> my recent road trip

 

> > > across U S 64 and U S 70 and realized one of

 

> them is a bit flaky,

 

> > to

 

> > > say the least. It was taken about a mile east

 

> of Hazen (going by

 

> > > the state route 11 sign tacked onto the bottom

 

> of the sign post in

 

> > > the photo) and indicates 70 and 63 run together

 

> at this point -

 

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> of Arkansas U S

 

> > > 63 does NOT run thru this area!!! In fact the

 

> maps show 63 ends

 

> > at

 

> > > I-55 (except for a possible old alignment now

 

> listed as AR 77

 

> > > running down toward Memphis).

 

> > >

 

> > > Anybody figure this one out??

 

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> > The 2003 Rand McNally road atlas indicates

 

> this is, in truth,

 

> > the new alignment of US 63. It follows I-55 south

 

> from Gilmore, AR,

 

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> here, it follows AR

 

> > 15 though Warren to Eldorado. Finally it follows

 

> US 187 to Ruston,

 

> > LA.

 

> >

 

> > Arkansas has had a number of realignments

 

> over the past few

 

> > years, including the creation of US 412 and the

 

> extension of US 49

 

> > north from Brinkley to Piggot. Confusing, but

 

> interesting.

 

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Dave,

 

 

 

I really enjoyed reading your notes about Route 40 and the National Road.

 

They brightened my day. Yes, Stewart was a very gifted and, as Larry

 

McMurty stated in 'Roads', an underappreciated American writer. A good

 

portion of his books have Route 40 interwoven in the text. Of course, 'U.S.

 

40' is most notable for being the first book ever written about a

 

transcontinental U.S. Highway. A little bit of trivia about Stewart is that

 

his book 'Storm' (which also takes place along Route 40) is the source for

 

the idea of naming hurricanes!

 

 

 

For the past few years I have been working on a 50-year update to the

 

Stewart book. I am planning on including all 114 scenes plus about 25-30

 

unpublished scenes. The book (if published the way I envision it) will

 

contain detailed maps and GPS information for other Stewart-philes. I would

 

also like to include a CD-ROM with 360-degree panoramic VR scenes of each

 

location. When I started the project, I was worried that I would find

 

myself repeating the same themes of change on every scene. Fortunately,

 

Stewart's choice of locations was just brilliant - in each scene there are

 

so many unique qualities that I now find myself having to edit some ideas

 

out.

 

 

 

I've been working with Jack Stewart (George's son and 1950 trip companion)

 

as well as the University of California where most of Stewart's materials

 

now reside. I am pitching the book everywhere I can and hope to find a

 

publisher before too long. I sense most publishers just don't think a book

 

about Route 40 would sell - but we all know better! ;^)

 

 

 

You should be happy to know that most of the right of way for the old

 

National Road is still drivable. There are some sections that are closed to

 

vehicular traffic, but the road remains available for travel and

 

exploration. There is a great section just east of Englewood, Ohio that

 

remains frozen in time. When the Miami Conservancy dams were built, the

 

highway was rerouted slightly to the south. The original road was abandoned

 

where it crossed the Miami and Stillwater Rivers. The section near

 

Englewood passes through a cut in the hillside and looks much they way it

 

did about 170 years ago.

 

 

 

Frank Brusca

 

Westerville, Ohio

 

frank@route40.net

 

 

 

Route 40 - America's Golden Highway

 

www.route40.net

 

 

 

- When we get [the Interstates] across the whole country, it will be

 

possible to drive from New York to California without seeing a single thing.

 

- John Steinbeck "Travels with Charley" (1963)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----

 

From: [mailto:drivewdave@aol.com]

 

Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 11:40 PM

 

To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com

 

Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] rambling on...

 

 

 

 

 

It doesn't take much to get me going, at least in my mind. The writer

 

mentioned an upcoming trip on US 40 which right away makes me

 

think of George Stewart's classic book US 40. I first came across

 

this book browsing the library shelves back in the 60s as a teen

 

and it has stuck with me since, I finally picked up my own copy

 

about 15 years ago. I still have not seen US 40 Revisited which

 

uses the before and after or then and now type of format to

 

document the changes of several decades. For anyone taking

 

an in depth trip on this road or any other for that matter this

 

book is a must, Stewart shows you new ways to better see and

 

understand what is passing by the windows of your motorcar.

 

 

 

But you don't have to leave home to feed your highway jones,

 

the view from my window includes I-5 and I can infer three

 

more alignments of the west coast artery, the original route

 

of the Pacific Highway and two later US 99 routes. For a few

 

years in the late 1920s the Pacific Highway was billed as

 

"the world's longest paved highway" at somewhere around

 

1600 miles from Canada to Mexico. Since Mock Turtle Press

 

has a Lynnwood WA address (US 99) this may be a matter

 

of more than passing interest to the people there. Maybe

 

somebody there could give an update on the status of one

 

of the finest old gas stations in the galaxy, Keelers Korner.

 

Jerry Shinn who has owned it since the 70s put it up for

 

sale last year as he felt he was neglecting it. If any

 

gas station is deserving of historic preservation

 

status this one is but as far as I know this has not

 

happened yet, at least not with any teeth in it.

 

Keelers Korner is located on old 99 north of

 

Lynnwood and may also be seen in various

 

petroliana books.

 

 

 

The rationale for all this rambling on is the open invitation

 

to write about any highway. It's easy to do if you have the

 

patience, it makes having the TV on a bit more justifiable,

 

or sitting in front of a monitor for hours as far as that goes.

 

 

 

One of my early favorite highways was in a sandpile in the

 

front yard. I had a Hubley cast metal semi-trailer rig, the

 

trailer is still here, it's doors disappeared years ago along

 

with the tractor, a replacement would likely run in the low

 

three digits. One thing that I remember from road building

 

in the sand was how I would take a metal can and use it as

 

a form for building an overpass. The sand should be damp so

 

you can compact it, wiggle the can to loosen it and carefully

 

pull it out and there you go, one overpass. Other early road

 

related memories come from the influence of my dad who

 

would point out 'the old road' and even drive on abandoned

 

fragments sometimes. Since those early days cement

 

concrete has been my pavement of choice. As we all

 

know the vintage concrete is fast becoming a scarce

 

commodity. Modern traffic loads and older design

 

standards are incompatible in the minds of too

 

many highway engineers it would seem. Here in

 

Washington two major segments of the Pacific

 

Highway were lost recently due to massive and

 

drastic realignment. It is getting harder and

 

harder to experience a real 1920s or 30s road.

 

Hopefully American Road magazine will prove

 

to be instrumental in counteracting the

 

chronic forces of cultural amnesia.

 

 

 

Pardon my glove, it's fun to lay it on real thick just

 

like the way people do when they rhapsodize all

 

romantic about the old roads. The deal is they

 

are usually talking about the roadside with its

 

colorful commercial architecture (what's left

 

of it) and the actual road gets the back seat.

 

For me there has always been visceral (gut level)

 

pleasure in moving through space by automobile.

 

I knew the inherent rightness of a banked curve

 

long long before I ever learned of superelevation.

 

 

 

As a child sometimes I would lie on my back on

 

the 'package tray' under the rear window of our

 

1950 Ford Custom Six two door sedan and watch

 

the electrical lines rise and fall, this was before

 

seat belts obviously. I had the route from Tacoma

 

to Seattle and back all memorized at an early age

 

and would watch for the various landmarks. One

 

of these was two large spherical tanks at Boeing

 

Plant Two on E Marginal Way and many years

 

later I learned they are for a wind tunnel next

 

to the model shop. One tank is pumped void

 

of air, then air from the other tank enters through

 

a fairly small aperture at high speed for a few

 

seconds. And of course just up the road is the

 

spectacular Hat 'n Boots gas station where

 

sometimes I could get my dad to stop and fill up.

 

Obviously the roads are in my blood and I would

 

not have it any other way.

 

 

 

Speaking of US 40 I have long wondered what remains

 

to be seen of the original National Road, I suspect there

 

may still be parts of it around but I have not got the low

 

down on this yet. Meanwhile, Happy Motoring, Dave

 

 

 

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Guest Alex Burr

Hi Jane,

 

 

 

Sounds like a good trip - Memphis to Florida.

 

You'll have to take U S 64 out of Memphis, tho, as 41

 

doesn't go into Memphis.

 

 

 

64 is a reasonbly good road, tho a bit crowded most

 

of the way over toward Chatanooga. You'll have to take

 

that across to I-64, where you'll have two choices.

 

You can continue past I-64 on TN 50 a few miles and

 

pick up 41 in Pelham, or you can go south a few miles

 

on 64 to Monteagle and pick up 41 there. If you opt

 

for 64 you'll get off at exit, uh, 124, Monteagle (W.

 

Main Street) and head east under the interstate into

 

Monteagle. 41 and 64 come together again in Jasper and

 

continue together into Chatanooga, as I recall.

 

 

 

That's what I have. Have a great trip when you do

 

it.

 

 

 

Hudsonly,

 

Alex B

 

 

 

--- Jane Dippel <vestaon66@yahoo.com> wrote:

 

> I just did a great drive on 41 from Ariba, Ga. to

 

> Ocala, Fla. I hope I am right that it continued to

 

> Ocala. The number changed to 141 along the way. Some

 

> towns I went throught were Arabi, Ashburn, Chula,

 

> Tifton, Sparks, Cecil, Valadosta, Lake Park, Jasper,

 

> White Springs, High Springs, Gainesville and into

 

> Ocala. I visited the old town of Micanopy which was

 

> beautiful. Then took a side trip the Cross Creek and

 

> visited the Marjorie Rawlings home and park. This is

 

> a beautiful area much like it was when she wrote

 

> there. Also a visit to the Stephen Foster Park in

 

> White Springs. White Springs was a spa many years

 

> ago and it is now preserved. I enjoyed this trip so

 

> much. The little towns I went through did show much

 

> decay but people still resided in them and were so

 

> nice. I would apperciate any in information you

 

> have to share about 41 from Memphis through Florida.

 

> Enjoyed what little I did of 41. I would like to

 

> start in Memphis and do the trip through

 

> Florida.....Thanks Jane

 

>

 

>

 

> There are 4 messages in this issue.

 

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> Topics in this digest:

 

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> 1. Re: RE: Road Report

 

> From: "jerrymc66"

 

> 2. Re: Re: RE: Road Report

 

> From: Bob Worley

 

> 3. Boots Motel update

 

> From: "rwarn17588"

 

> 4. Re: road report

 

> From: "Rudyard Welborn"

 

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> Message: 1

 

> Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2004 09:37:20 -0600

 

> From: "jerrymc66"

 

> Subject: Re: RE: Road Report

 

>

 

>

 

> Lulu,

 

>

 

> As I said, I HAVE been photographing and documenting

 

> these old slab

 

> roads...for years! I luv 'em.

 

>

 

> The images will be posted...in an article someday.

 

> (OK..maybe a teaser shot

 

> on the group....sometime)

 

>

 

> It ain't procrastination, its obligation...I have a

 

> book project, plus two

 

> other articles to get out first! Thomas and I have

 

> talked about such an

 

> article, but decided to do the other stuff first

 

> (including the Rte 66

 

> Department!)

 

>

 

> (Plus people keep wanting me to do paintings!)

 

>

 

> I drove one of the slabs yesterday afternoon..ahhh,

 

> the "kathump-thump" of

 

> the joints in the road.

 

>

 

> McJerry

 

>

 

>

 

> > Message: 7

 

> > Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2004 02:32:54 EST

 

> > From: Lulupic66@aol.com

 

> > Subject: Re: RE: road report

 

> >

 

> > Jerry!

 

> > You being the Road Geek that you are, don't have

 

> any pictures/images of

 

> > these old highways!

 

> > You need to preserve this and post these images!

 

> > From a

 

> > "very Surprised"

 

> > I am almost embarrassed for you!

 

> >

 

> >

 

> >

 

> > Lulu!

 

> > PS I do understand the procrastination's stuff

 

> > Love you Honey!

 

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> Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2004 07:46:45 -0800 (PST)

 

> From: Bob Worley

 

> Subject: Re: Re: RE: Road Report

 

>

 

> JerryMc,

 

>

 

> Since I am about an hour from Corcicana and my dad,

 

> uncles and cousins have

 

> lots of land in Navarro county, I would be very

 

> interested in seeing what you

 

> have to show...!

 

>

 

> Bob Worley

 

>

 

> --- jerrymc66 wrote:

 

> >

 

> > Lulu,

 

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> > roads...for years! I luv 'em.

 

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> Message: 3

 

> Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2004 17:12:25 -0000

 

> From: "rwarn17588"

 

> Subject: Boots Motel update

 

>

 

> Walgreens interest waning

 

>

 

> By Dennis W. Sowers, Of The Press Staff

 

> Walgreens apparently has pulled back from developing

 

> the southwest

 

> corner at Garrison and Central avenues, according to

 

> one of the

 

> property owners.

 

>

 

> "They said they didn't have any more interest," said

 

> Vince Scott, who

 

> owns the Boots Motel property with his wife Kristi.

 

> "That just came

 

> from them, the Walgreens' people. I don't know."

 

>

 

> Scott said the leasing firm negotiating for the

 

> purchase of the

 

> property stopped further discussions last Thursday.

 

>

 

> "There was a lot of interest in it," Scott said. "I

 

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Guest Rudyard Welborn

I kinda brought my opine to the floor once before; as it got such a rousing

 

reception then thought I would pull it out of the outbox...also, I to am against

 

recertification...Tsingato, Kip

 

----- Original Message -----

 

From: Rudyard Welborn

 

To: route66@yahoogroups.com

 

Sent: Monday, January 12, 2004 7:13 PM

 

Subject: Re: [route66] put 66 back

 

 

 

 

 

I have often wondered why map companies etc. don't mark the road better..they

 

put all sorts of other designations on their maps (some of which are visible by

 

telescope)...and I do believe that the Natchez Trace, the Blue Ridge Parkway and

 

the Skyline Drive are all marked (as I am sure are others that my feebility

 

allows me to forget)...one thought: as Parks utilize the color brown for their

 

signs, and as the historic route signs utilize the color brown, could not it be

 

suggested (at least the States for their official maps, perhaps Rand McNally,

 

that they mark the route on their maps in brown (with the historic marker like

 

any other road) (and all other historic routes)--make that a new designation on

 

their maps---god, I love pipe dreamin at 7 a.m.! Tsingtao, Kip

 

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Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2004 11:02 PM

 

Subject: [route66] put 66 back

 

 

 

 

 

Here is my editorial in The Central New Mexico Advocate from

 

last week to the state's legislators:

 

 

 

Put 66 Back

 

 

 

By J.A. Ueckert

 

 

 

U.S. Route 66 was legally and officially decommissioned in

 

1985, but the road was once known as "Main Street USA"

 

because of the sheer volume of cross country traffic it carried.

 

The route then fell into disuse after completion of the nation's

 

interstate highway system and many of the little towns and

 

crossroads that sprang up to support the burgeoning highway

 

traffic also withered and, in all too many cases, died.

 

That was before Bob Audette in Barton, New Mexico and a

 

legion of other Route 66 enthusiasts from across the country

 

began raising hell and making a lot of noise about preserving

 

the historical status of Route 66. Since then, Route 66

 

Associations have been formed in each of the 8 states the Route

 

crossed, as well as several national organizations and a few

 

world wide associations.

 

What prompted Audette to support a 66 revitalization

 

movement was a sense that something historically significant

 

was about to be lost or forgotten. Others had a sense of

 

nostalgia or romanticism about the old road. Whatever the

 

motivation, Historic Route 66 has become the focus of

 

worldwide attention and rejuvenation. Motels and roadside

 

attractions are receiving more visitors. Some Europeans are

 

shipping their autos across the Atlantic for the rare privilege of

 

driving them on Route 66, or alternately, purchasing or leasing

 

classic cars when they arrive in the country to drive on the

 

"Mother Road", as it was named in John Steinbeck's dust bowl

 

era novel, "The Grapes of Wrath." According to David Knudson,

 

Executive Director of the National Historic Route 66 Federation,

 

"In 2005, the South Essex Branch of the Triumph Owners Motor

 

Cycle Club are planning to ship around fifteen bikes, riders and

 

passengers to Chicago to ride Route 66 to LA. these bikes are

 

1960 - 1985 classic Motorcycles."

 

The economic potential of Route 66 has grown dramatically

 

since 1985 and New Mexico has established all of the old

 

sections of Route 66 still open to traffic as a National Scenic

 

Byway, but many of those sections remain either unmarked or

 

marked with a variety of other numbers.

 

For instance, in Gallup, what remains of Route 66 is labeled

 

NM 118 while in Grants, the road is designated NM 117. From

 

Budville to Laguna, it turns into NM 124 and from the east side of

 

Albuquerque to the west side of Moriarty, the road is designated

 

NM 333.

 

When visitors come to travel the old road with road atlases and

 

maps, they can't find Route 66, because it is not a real highway

 

anymore. Therefore, it doesn't show up on the maps.

 

The state wants to promote economic development and

 

tourism but little has been accomplished to properly mark the

 

road. The stretch of road between east side Moriarty and west

 

side Albuquerque, for instance, remains one of the longest,

 

most populated original pieces of Route 66 history. This area

 

could quite naturally be transformed into a tourist magnet, if the

 

tourists could only find us on a map.

 

When asked at a recent Route 66 summit what the state could

 

do to further economic development, one participant said,

 

"Cooperation costs nothing."

 

So, as the 2004 legislative session is about to begin, we invite

 

the Governor, the Senators and Representative as well as

 

Highway Department officials to put the "66" back on every piece

 

of road from the Texas to the Arizona border. It doesn't matter if it

 

is a city, county, state or unmarked piece of road, if it carries a

 

"66" on it, (NM 66, CR 66, etc.) along with an occasional "Historic

 

Route 66" marker, it will make it much easier for distant travelers

 

to find it, spend time on it, and spend time in New Mexico

 

businesses and attractions as well.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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--- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "rwarn17588" <RWarn17588@a...>

 

> > This is a most interesting development! Are you actively working

 

> on

 

> > this Ron?

 

>

 

> No, I'm not behind it, but I support the effort. Tommy Pike,

 

> president of the Missouri Route 66 Association, said about a month

 

> ago at a meeting I attended that he's working with the proper

 

> bureaucrats to get the scenic byway designation in Missouri --

 

> including all the alignments, not just one. Patty Kuhn of the

 

> Illinois Route 66 Heritage Project also is doing the same thing. >

 

Ron Warnick

 

> Belleville, IL

 

 

 

I think it's wonderful that Patty and Tommy are taking the bull by

 

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