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I finally found time to drive my favorite local section of Highway 40

 

(Colfax Avenue) through Denver looking for "Harlequin" style Phillips 66

 

buildings as highlighted in the recent SCA Journal. I found five

 

surviving buildings along the twenty plus miles, most on the east end in

 

Aurora. Three are still gas stations, selling under the Sinclair brand.

 

The other two are car repair facilities, the most notable being a bright

 

yellow Meineke shop that has installed yellow bulbs on the lighting below

 

the canopy making a striking night display amongst the surviving neon. I

 

have also noted two other survivors on other streets.

 

 

 

I am curious about other architectural details that can identify other

 

brands and styles of gas stations. Many restaurant chains are well known

 

and recognizable in their "afterlife", but I haven't seen much background

 

on gas stations. Colfax has an old McDonalds stand, less arches, that

 

serves as the office of a used car lot and several other identifiable

 

building styles. A number of old drive-in restaurant buildings with

 

canopies survive. Though probably wishful thinking, I hope that one of

 

those may be reborn after seeing the popularity of the Sonic chain that

 

has recently expanded their local presence.

 

 

 

If anyone has some notes or can lead me toward any books or sources to

 

research building styles I would be most appreciative. And as always, if

 

anyone has an interest in Colfax Ave or Highway 40 and would like to

 

correspond or compare notes please contact me privately.

 

 

 

See you on the road --

 

 

 

Walt Hackney

 

Gyrfal@Juno.com

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Guest rwarn17588

I just posted at www.route66news.org with a bunch of links, e-mails,

 

names, snail mails, fax numbers and other stuff where you can contact

 

the City of Albuquerque's Planning Commission and encourage them to

 

preserve the historic El Vado Motel and preserve a key part of the

 

city's Route 66 heritage.

 

 

 

The title of the post is "How to Help the El Vado."

 

 

 

Ordinarily, I'd post what I wrote here, except the darned Yahoo

 

formatting breaks up the e-mail addresses.

 

 

 

The resources you need are there. Go to it.

 

 

 

Ron Warnick

 

Tulsa, OK

 

www.route66news.org

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Hello everyone,

 

 

 

I will be having to drive from Los Angeles to Austin, Texas in early

 

November and I was wondering if there are any interesting things I

 

could see on my way there. I will be on Hwy 10 for most of the trip.

 

 

 

Thanks,

 

Alex

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I have the information on my site, www.route66news.org

 

 

 

I'd post it here, except there's a link that I can't retrieve here.

 

Needless to say, it's pretty good news.

 

 

 

Ron Warnick

 

Tulsa, OK

 

www.route66news.org

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Guest Jim Conkle

I have looked at ordering Microsoft Windows XP Pro ad Office XP Pro. The

 

costs are over $1,000.00 from the established sources. Lately I have been

 

getting e-mail announcements about buying these for under $100.00. My

 

problem is this; they come from an unknown source such as an Eastern

 

European country or you have to download once again from an unknown source.

 

Both methods make me feel a little worried.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

My question is have any of you ordered product this way and if so what were

 

your results? I would like to save paying the big money but also do not want

 

to waste the little money. I know that there are some of you out there that

 

have forgotten more about computers, internet and software then I will ever

 

know so I am turning to you. Please help I am open to your suggestions and

 

advice.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thanks

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

James M Conkle

 

 

 

Executive Director & Chairman of the Board

 

 

 

California Route 66 Preservation Foundation

 

 

 

P O Box 290066

 

 

 

Phelan, CA 92329-0066

 

 

 

760 617 3991 cell

 

 

 

760 868 3320

 

 

 

760 868 8614 fax

 

 

 

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Guest Alex Burr

Jim,

 

 

 

My take is simple - if it looks to good to be true,

 

it probably is.

 

 

 

Put another way, is it worth spending, say $800, for

 

a probably knock off and winding up spending another

 

however much to get your computer back to normal or

 

even possibly messing up your computer so badly you

 

may have to have a professional bring it back or,

 

worst case scenario, having to buy a new computer.

 

 

 

Besides, you cannot know if the cheaper offer will

 

also offer support if you have a problem with the

 

product. In the long run more expensive might just be

 

cheaper.

 

 

 

That's the view from my soap box (PS - I personally

 

think American business is out to rip us all off in

 

the first place, but sometimes it's the only game in

 

town.)

 

 

 

Hudsonly,

 

Alex Burr

 

 

 

--- Jim Conkle <jim@cart66pf.org> wrote:

 

 

 

> I have looked at ordering Microsoft Windows XP Pro

 

> ad Office XP Pro. The

 

> costs are over $1,000.00 from the established

 

> sources. Lately I have been

 

> getting e-mail announcements about buying these for

 

> under $100.00. My

 

> problem is this; they come from an unknown source

 

> such as an Eastern

 

> European country or you have to download once again

 

> from an unknown source.

 

> Both methods make me feel a little worried.

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

> My question is have any of you ordered product this

 

> way and if so what were

 

> your results? I would like to save paying the big

 

> money but also do not want

 

> to waste the little money. I know that there are

 

> some of you out there that

 

> have forgotten more about computers, internet and

 

> software then I will ever

 

> know so I am turning to you. Please help I am open

 

> to your suggestions and

 

> advice.

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

> Thanks

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

> James M Conkle

 

>

 

> Executive Director & Chairman of the Board

 

>

 

> California Route 66 Preservation Foundation

 

>

 

> P O Box 290066

 

>

 

> Phelan, CA 92329-0066

 

>

 

> 760 617 3991 cell

 

>

 

> 760 868 3320

 

>

 

> 760 868 8614 fax

 

>

 

> HYPERLINK "mailto:"jim@cart66pf.org

 

>

 

> www.cart66pf.org

 

>

 

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--- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "Denny Gibson" <denny@d...> wrote:

 

>

 

> I was in Tazewell about a year ago and have some vague recollection of

 

> looking briefly for some attraction I was then aware of. I'm sure it was

 

> Rose's Station that I was looking for and, after seeing your pictures, I

 

> wish I had persevered. Next time.

 

 

 

One point I forgot to mention about Rose's is it is only open on weekdays.

 

>

 

> DeLorme & Garmin identified that

 

> bridge on TN-375 as the William P Harrell Bridge.

 

 

 

Thanks for supplying the last piece in a 43 year old puzzle! Now to

 

tackle those fossils...:)

 

 

 

Happy Motoring,

 

 

 

BabyBoomerBob

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Guest Russell S. Rein

Jim,

 

 

 

I don't know if this is an option but - students are able to buy

 

Microsoft software

 

at exceptional discounts. A good source is larger college bookstores.

 

 

 

ypsi-slim

 

 

 

On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 10:26:22 -0800 "Jim Conkle" <jim@cart66pf.org>

 

writes:

 

I have looked at ordering Microsoft Windows XP Pro ad Office XP Pro. The

 

costs are over $1,000.00 from the established sources. Lately I have been

 

getting e-mail announcements about buying these for under $100.00. My

 

problem is this; they come from an unknown source such as an Eastern

 

European country or you have to download once again from an unknown

 

source.

 

Both methods make me feel a little worried.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

My question is have any of you ordered product this way and if so what

 

were

 

your results? I would like to save paying the big money but also do not

 

want

 

to waste the little money. I know that there are some of you out there

 

that

 

have forgotten more about computers, internet and software then I will

 

ever

 

know so I am turning to you. Please help I am open to your suggestions

 

and

 

advice.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thanks

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

James M Conkle

 

 

 

Executive Director & Chairman of the Board

 

 

 

California Route 66 Preservation Foundation

 

 

 

P O Box 290066

 

 

 

Phelan, CA 92329-0066

 

 

 

760 617 3991 cell

 

 

 

760 868 3320

 

 

 

760 868 8614 fax

 

 

 

HYPERLINK "mailto:"jim@cart66pf.org

 

 

 

www.cart66pf.org

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Guest David G. Clark

Mark:

 

 

 

Thanks for your very insightful reflections and comments on the

 

early roads southwest out of Chicago. As I continue to add to my

 

site, I will be incorporating much of what you discuss--the Indian

 

trails, the "railroad" alignments (which you refer to as the road

 

through the coal towns, which is also very accurate), etc.

 

 

 

The picture I am getting as I work through this research is that the

 

choice of highway and the paths that were upgraded to "hard roads"

 

always, of course, had a purpose--the extreme expense of improving

 

roads was not done lightly. There had to be a potential benefit. As

 

the years went by, those potential benefits and the needs might

 

shift, and so hard roads would be built in different locations.

 

 

 

By the 1915-1926 era, the benefit of marking the best through-

 

highways so that travellers could find their way became a priority

 

to many, and this marking occurred in several different ways,

 

depending upon the purpose. In the case of the named motor trails,

 

the purpose was often to benefit the businesses or municipalities

 

who were monetary backers of the trail, and so the exact routing

 

might shift based on who was paying for the signs.

 

 

 

In the case of the early Illinois state route (State Bond Issue, or

 

SBI highways) the legislature mandated specific municipalities to be

 

servied by each route, and gave the state highway department

 

authority to specify specific alignments. Existing good roads, and

 

existing commercial enterprises, would always be a factor in the

 

choice of alignment, but the criteria involved in routing a

 

privately funded named trail vs. choosing the path of a publicly-

 

funded highway differed enough to make the type of diversions you

 

speak of, especially north of Joliet.

 

 

 

This is a facsinating subject, I believe, and it is one that I

 

intend to pursue to a great degree of depth on the website as time

 

permits. 66 is indeed a hybrid of many earlier paths, and the forces

 

that formed our beloved Mother Road in the Chicago area can be

 

traced all the way back to at least 1673, the first recorded visit

 

to the area by people of European descent. (In some case, such as

 

the section of 66 along Ogden Avenue, Joliet Road, IL 126, and I-55

 

in DuPage Copunty, the path was blazed by native Americans perhaps

 

thousands of years ago). This is a LOT of ground to cover, so it is

 

going to take me a long time to get it all out there, so bear with

 

me!

 

 

 

http://windycityroadwarrior.com/Stories/Pontiac_Trail.html

 

 

 

Dave Clark

 

Windy City Road Warrior

 

 

 

--- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, Mark <mburic231@y...> wrote:

 

>

 

> Thanks for linking your new info Dave. I've been

 

> doing some of my own research on Route 66; the reason

 

> it became in 1926 as we now know(and the latter

 

> alignments) and the pre existing trails that help

 

> established it.

 

>

 

> By looking at the 1917 map on your site a lot of

 

> things came into more focus. First of all it looks to

 

> me what was the Pontiac trail was only truly part of

 

> Route 66 from Dwight southward. The map shows the

 

> Pontiac trail going from Dwight, straight north to

 

> Morris, then turns east on what is Route 6 until it

 

> enters Joliet. Then continuing up what is ROute

 

> 171/Archer Ave. In other words, from Dwight to

 

> Joliet, The Pontiac trail and Route 66 were not the

 

> same.

 

>

 

> After reading many sources, all sorts of trails and

 

> roads are named from pre Route 66 around Chicago.

 

> Chicago Trail, Ottawa trail, Buffalo Trail, Plank

 

> Road, High Plains Road - and of course The Pontiac

 

> Trail. From looking at your site, giving an

 

> explanation to the 'why' Route 66's terminus was at

 

> Jackson Blvd.; being the geographical center of the

 

> city, it makes it clear that Route 66 was simply a

 

> hybrid of many trails and roads to get to St. Louis

 

> with the least resistance. Not simply the old Pontiac

 

> Trail as it seems it is simply refered to as a soul

 

> descendent.

 

>

 

> So if we start in Chicago and work westward, 1st road

 

> is Jackson Blvd., the only true Euro/American based

 

> road, to Plank Road(Ogden Ave.), then that works down

 

> to what would essentially be IL 126(Chicago trial)

 

> *if* Route 66 wasn't made as a National highway. Then

 

> at Welco corners it turned south. I don't know what

 

> road or trail this was pre SBI4/Route66 but it must

 

> have been a northern spur to get to the river and I&M

 

> Canal and parallel the real Pontiac trail(Archer

 

> Ave/171)on the other side of the Des Plains river and

 

> canal - until meeting at Joliet.

 

>

 

> At Joliet - the last leg before we get to the real

 

> Pontiac trail, going straight south, 1st hitting the

 

> town of Elwood; a railroad town from about the 1850s

 

> - I think. Then to Wilmington, a very old river town.

 

> The final ~10 miles is towns that were all

 

> essentially started as coal towns starting ~1850s

 

> also.

 

>

 

> Essentially it sounds like this last leg between

 

> Joliet and Dwight came into traveling signifigance not

 

> because of Indian trails but because of the string of

 

> coal towns and the railroad they promoted through this

 

> area.

 

>

 

> I don't know of how heavily this area was used for

 

> traveling(If really at all) in the Indian and trading

 

> days but it seems like the pre-city-of-Chicago main

 

> travel route would have been on the true Pontiac Trail

 

> through Dwight/Morris to Joliet and not the 1926 Rt.66

 

> alignment via Dwight/Wilmington to Joliet.

 

>

 

> Anyway that's some of my take on the why's of Route 66

 

> and, in the Chicago area, as not really the Pontiac

 

> Trail but a hybrid of several OTHER different roads

 

> and trails.

 

>

 

>

 

> Regards,

 

>

 

> Mark

 

> Buric

 

>

 

>

 

> --- "David G. Clark" <dave@w...>

 

> wrote:

 

>

 

> > I just finished a large new section for my website,

 

> > something I have

 

> > been comtemplating ever since I first started the

 

> > site a few years

 

> > ago. I am trying to create a place on the web to

 

> > present my research

 

> > as it progresses. The pages I just finished are the

 

> > first part of that

 

> > project, and I would welcome critical comments.

 

> >

 

> > The new section(s) can all me accessed from this

 

> > URL:

 

> >

 

> >

 

> http://windycityroadwarrior.com/Stories/Pontiac_Trail.html

 

> >

 

> > or you can go to my home page,

 

> > www.windycityroadwarrior.com and click

 

> > on the link for "On the Trail of the Named Highways

 

> > from Chicago to

 

> > the Southwest," which is the title of the new

 

> > section. The purpose of

 

> > this new section is to present research, including

 

> > sections of primary

 

> > sources, images, photos, postcards, and other

 

> > artifacts and documents

 

> > to illustrate the history of transportation,

 

> > especially roadbuilding,

 

> > in the years running up to the creation of the U.S.

 

> > Highways leading

 

> > to and from Chicago (arguably the transportation hub

 

> > of the country

 

> > for most of the 19th and 20th centuries).

 

> >

 

> > I have tested these new pages with Firefox and

 

> > Netscape and everything

 

> > seems to be working fairly well. If anyone finds any

 

> > bad links or

 

> > images that will not load, let me know. I would

 

> > appreciate comments on

 

> > the content as well.

 

> >

 

> > Thanks, and (hopefully) enjoy!

 

> >

 

> > Dave Clark

 

> > WindyCityRoadWarrior.com

 

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> >

 

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Well I'm late for Christmas but I hope everyone had a Merry one and

 

May you all have a good 2005.We never got any snow in my part of TN.

 

except for a little spitting last week but I hear up near the KY.

 

border they got quiet a bit.--- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com,

 

roadmaven@a... wrote:

 

> Merry Christmas & Season's Greetings & Happy Holidays everyone!

 

Like many of

 

> you, we too got hit with heavy snow this week. Speedway, IN got 9"

 

in less

 

> than 6 hours by early Thursday morning. We awoke to this Thursday:

 

> _ (http://tinyurl.com/4k9ww) My office

 

even closed for the

 

> day, giving me my first "snow day" since high school! :-)

 

>

 

> Pat B.

 

> _ (http://roadtripmemories.com)

 

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Koshimizu" <t-koshi@n...> wrote:

 

> My name is Toshio Koshimizu. I'm living in Yokohama, Japan. I just

 

joined

 

> your e-Group.

 

> We (my wife and I) love driving trip. We had 16 trips since 1966,

 

in USA,

 

> Canada, Australia

 

> and New Zealand. It took two to three weeks each time. I posted

 

photo album

 

> and trip report

 

> (written in Japanese) of these 16 trips on my web site.

 

> I made English Version of my pages of last two trips (Route 66 in

 

Spring and

 

> Atlantic Canada

 

> & New England in Autumn 2004). I'd appreciate if you give me your

 

comment.

 

> URL are as follows:

 

> Route 66: http://www.isao-net.com/driving/R66/English/index.html

 

> Atlantic Canada: http://www.isao-

 

net.com/driving/canada2/canada2e/index.html

 

>

 

>

 

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My suggestion for a Christmas gift, as well as for using to add interest to your

 

own drives around Indiana, is Remembrance, Faith, & Fancy--Outdoor Public

 

Sculpture in Indiana, by Glory-June Greiff. And for something completely

 

unrelated

 

http://www.museumofhoaxes.com/hoax/aprilfool/comments/830/ LA Highways Close

 

for Repairs In 1987 a Los Angeles disc jockey announced that on April 8 the LA

 

highway system would be shut down for repairs for an entire month. This was

 

alarming news in LA where it's necessary to use the highway to get almost

 

anywhere. The radio station immediately received hundreds of frantic calls in

 

response to the announcement, and the California Highway Patrol reported that

 

they were also flooded with calls throughout the day. The station later admitted

 

that it was stunned by the intensity of the public reaction to the hoax. A

 

representative from the California Department of Transportation called the

 

station's managers to share their opinion of the prank. Reportedly "they didn't

 

think it was very funny."

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Guest rudkip@sbcglobal.net>

By the by, you probably knew this, but 61 North of Jackson was originally SR

 

25--SR 25 used to go from the Mo Ark Border (down by Cardwell, MO) to

 

Crystal City, MO...Tsingtao Kip

 

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Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 10:10 PM

 

Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] US-79, US-61, & some Old 66

 

 

 

 

 

> On Wednesday I left home and headed toward Memphis. The next step turned

 

out

 

> to be US-61 north to St Louis with a jog through Dexter and stretch of

 

> MO-25. Then it was Historic 66 to a bit beyond Rolla and US-50 home. I met

 

> up with group member Alex

 

> Burr in Memphis and spent New Year's Eve in Rolla with some local roadies

 

> and some Indiana travelers including this group's moderators.

 

>

 

> I'm back home now and ready (cough, cough) to return to work tomorrow. The

 

> six day trip is up at

 

> www.dennygibson.com/memphis2005

 

>

 

> Denny Gibson

 

> Cincinnati, OH

 

> www.DennyGibson.com

 

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Glenrio is unique (to the best of my knowledge) because you can leave

 

one side of town and get to the other half an hour (or so) before you

 

left. In New Mexico, Glenrio is in the Mountain time zone, and in

 

Texas, it's in the Central time zone. There are several towns that

 

cross state lines, but no other ones that cross time zones, unless

 

someone can correct me on that point.

 

 

 

Even if you don't think that's cool, it's an old west town of first

 

stripe.

 

 

 

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in

 

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probably

 

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of the

 

> coolest ghost towns you will ever encounter...not far off the

 

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Sorry about all that kids!

 

Perhaps I should have "shorter linked" it?

 

 

 

http://makeashorterlink.com/?L10923E3A

 

http://makeashorterlink.com/?O31952E3A

 

http://makeashorterlink.com/?M22912E3A

 

 

 

Also parts of this may not be for the "faint of bandwidth".

 

Sorry again for any confusion . . . Chris

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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the

 

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didn't see

 

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wrong

 

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and III)

 

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Correct

 

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> Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] The American Road, (Part I, II and

 

III)

 

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> > The American Road, (Part I, II and III)

 

> >

 

> > Shows development of transportation in the United States

 

during the

 

> > first half of the 20th century, emphasizing growth of

 

automobile

 

> > industry, roads and highways.

 

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>

 

http://www.archive.org/movies/details-db.p...lection=preling

 

er&collection

 

> > id=american_road_1

 

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>

 

http://www.archive.org/movies/details-db.p...lection=preling

 

er&collection

 

> > id=american_road_2

 

> >

 

>

 

http://www.archive.org/movies/details-db.p...lection=preling

 

er&collection

 

> > id=american_road_3

 

> >

 

> >

 

> > Search "Automobiles" in all media types.

 

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Eastern NC barbeque is like none other that I've ever had and unless

 

a person has tried it, it would be hard to explain, but I'll try. I

 

know Matt knows what it is, because Parker's is every bit as good as

 

Wilber's. I probably shouldn't have said that as in eastern

 

Carolina, this could be cause for a shootin' war as people take

 

their bbq very seriously. Plus, I was born in Goldsboro and spent a

 

lot of my early life there.

 

 

 

First, it is pulled pork, not beef. Then it has a vinegarbase

 

instead of tomato and cooked for a long time over hickory wood. My

 

own favorite way to eat it is with coleslaw sharing the fork at the

 

same mouthful so I always order double on the slaw and forego the

 

potato salad.

 

 

 

Greensboro to Goldsboro is probably a little over 100 miles.

 

However, if you come across a Smithfield's Barbeque anywhere, go to

 

that as I like it too. There are quite a few Smithfield's BBQ

 

places. I just went on the internet and they have a site at

 

http://www.smithfieldschicken.com.html I see there are ones in

 

Raleigh and Garner, a lot closer to Greensboro. You can find their

 

locations on the site.

 

 

 

I have also heard there is a bit of controversy concerning the

 

relative merits of bbq from the eastern and western parts of NC.

 

 

 

I think it would be great if we could get some of that great eastern

 

Carolina bbq here in Illinois.

 

 

 

By the way, what is a Merlefest? Merle Haggard?

 

 

 

Keep on Down that Two Lane Highway. -- RoadDog

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

--- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, <thehinge@m...> wrote:

 

>

 

> I know what you're talking about, roaddog. Ever been to

 

> Parker's BBQ in Wilson, NC.? It's very good, too. I may fly

 

> into Greensboro for the Merlefest music fest this

 

> spring...how far is Goldsboro from Greensboro?

 

>

 

> Matt Smallwood

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

> On Mon, 02 Jan 2006 14:44:39 -0000

 

> "roaddog_rt66" <roaddog_rt66@y...> wrote:

 

> >

 

> >

 

> >

 

> >

 

> > Remember to check out some of that great eastern North

 

> > Carolina

 

> > barbeque, push it around with hushpuppies, and wash it

 

> > down with

 

> > sweet tea.

 

> >

 

> > On your way back, if you have time, take US 70 and stop

 

> > at Wilber's

 

> > BarbeQue on the US-70 bypass in Goldsboro, NC.  Not

 

> > only is the bbq

 

> > superb, but the interior is pure southern dining at its

 

> > finest.

 

> >

 

> > Go downtown and check out the Record Rack which, sadly to

 

> > say, is

 

> > closing after operating since 1972.  You can pick up

 

> > some Beach

 

> > Music CDs and Stan Hartley will be happy to assist you in

 

> > your

 

> > selection.  I hate to see another of the mom and pop

 

> > record stores

 

> > closing.

 

> >

 

> > You might be wondering just what Beach Music is. 

 

> > Most of you

 

> > probably immediately thought of the Beach Boys or Jan and

 

> > Dean. 

 

> > That would be very wrong.  It is R&B and many

 

> > other influences

 

> > dating from the 50s to the present. It has a very

 

> > distinct beat you

 

> > can dance to.  The dance is called the Shag (NC's

 

> > state dance), and

 

> > I'm not talking about the shag in England.  It is

 

> > sort of like a

 

> > slow bop.

 

> >

 

> > To get a good idea of it, and you go to beachshag on the

 

> > internet

 

> > and listen to Fessa John Hook's Endless Summer

 

> > network. 

 

> > http://www.beachshag.com

 

> >

 

> > Also, check out the Fort Fisher Museum near the end of

 

> > 421.  This is

 

> > a little-known, but very pivotal battle near the end of

 

> > the Civil

 

> > War.  Right now, they have an Armstrong 100 pdr.

 

> > cannon on temporary

 

> > loan from West Point as well as a Whitworth cannon, one

 

> > of the most

 

> > advanced pieces of artillery at the time.  You can

 

> > also learn about

 

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> > of

 

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> > > > Started out Thursday in Michigan City, IN and

 

> > made it into

 

> > > Wilmington, NC

 

> > > > tonite.

 

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> > > > hester_nec@y... writes:

 

> > > > I have a trivia question for everyone this

 

> > morning - where doe U

 

> > S

 

> > > > highways 60, 61 and 62 intersect???

 

> > > >

 

> >

 

>

 

====================================================================

 

> > > > And where to US routes 221, 321 and 421

 

> > intersect?

 

> > > >

 

> > > > Tom Hoffman

 

> > > > Pearisburg VA

 

> > > >

 

> > > >

 

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> > > That would be Boone, NC

 

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Got you on the bbq hungers. I haven't been to Arkansas, but am sure

 

they have great barbeque there. However, I'm sure it is not the

 

same as eastern Carolina. However, I pretty much like any bbq

 

unless it is too hot like that habanero pepper. Incidently, I had

 

my first encounter with a piece of habanero a few months ago at a

 

Bloody Mary bar. I will look at any stuffed olives I put into my

 

drink from now on.

 

 

 

We visited Kansas City once and went to a place I think was called

 

Arthur something or another. It is a very famous place, but I can't

 

remember the name right now. This was fantastic stuff and came

 

piled high on a bun. It served as lunch the next day.

 

 

 

This gets me hungry for bbq, and I just had it three times last

 

week. I can't get Carolina bbq here in Illinois. Like they say,

 

when in Carolina, eat bbq.

 

 

 

Keep on Down that Two Lane Highway. -- RoadDog

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "bugo" <bugo@h...> wrote:

 

>

 

> --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "roaddog_rt66"

 

> <roaddog_rt66@y...> wrote:

 

> >

 

> > Remember to check out some of that great eastern North Carolina

 

> > barbeque, push it around with hushpuppies, and wash it down with

 

> > sweet tea.

 

>

 

> Now you're speaking my language here!

 

>

 

> > On your way back, if you have time, take US 70 and stop at

 

> Wilber's

 

> > BarbeQue on the US-70 bypass in Goldsboro, NC. Not only is the

 

> bbq

 

> > superb, but the interior is pure southern dining at its finest.

 

>

 

> Does anybody know any good BBQ joints in Little Rock, Arkansas?

 

I'm

 

> in the process of moving there, and the place I used to get BBQ

 

> from, Jo-Jo's, has closed. (While I was writing this post, I

 

> typed "Jo-Jo's" into Yahoo Yellow Pages, and a listing came up for

 

a

 

> Jo-Jo's in Sherwood. I'll have to check it out next time I'm up

 

> there. Stay tuned for details). I've lived in Arkansas most of

 

my

 

> life, and Jo-Jo's was the only place I ever went to in Little Rock

 

> because it was so good. I went to Whole Hog BBQ once, but the BBQ

 

> was too salty. There's an excellent BBQ joint in Conway,

 

Smitty's.

 

> They have several different sauces: regular mild, shack, sweet,

 

and

 

> several different levels of hot. One day, I decided to try the

 

hot

 

> sauce, and I couldn't eat more than 3 bites. I later found out it

 

> was flavored with habanero pepper, which explans the heat. There

 

is

 

> also a Corky's in LR, but I always found Corky's a bit bland.

 

> Shorty Smalls' sauce is Jack Daniels whiskey based, but I don't

 

> really like BBQ that tastes like liquor. Anyway, does anybody

 

have

 

> any BBQ joints in Little Rock to recommend?

 

>

 

> I lived in Kansas City for a couple of years, and I ended up

 

gaining

 

> about 40 pounds that I have since lost, which can partially be

 

> blamed on the excellent BBQ available in KC. I would recommend

 

> Gates and LC's if you're ever in the area and hungry for BBQ.

 

>

 

> Now I'm hungry for BBQ.

 

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Merlefest was named after Merle Watson, the deceased

 

brother to Doc Watson, the North Carolina folk singer.

 

It's held the last weekend of April (Thurs-Sunday) on the

 

campus of Wilkes Community College in North Wilkesboro, NC.

 

40-50 acts attend every year. If you like bluegrasss and

 

old-timey country music, I highly recommend the festival.

 

 

 

North Wilkesboro about 60 miles east of Winston-Salem on US

 

421, so it's an easy drive from that area. I definitely

 

plan on attending this spring. Check out the list of

 

musicians at merlefest.org, Roaddog.

 

 

 

Matt Smallwood

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

On Tue, 03 Jan 2006 16:07:47 -0000

 

"roaddog_rt66" <roaddog_rt66@yahoo.com> wrote:

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

> Eastern NC barbeque is like none other that I've ever had

 

> and unless

 

> a person has tried it, it would be hard to explain, but

 

> I'll try. I

 

> know Matt knows what it is, because Parker's is every bit

 

> as good as

 

> Wilber's.  I probably shouldn't have said that as in

 

> eastern

 

> Carolina, this could be cause for a shootin' war as

 

> people take

 

> their bbq very seriously. Plus, I was born in Goldsboro

 

> and spent a

 

> lot of my early life there.

 

>

 

> First, it is pulled pork, not beef.  Then it has a

 

> vinegarbase

 

> instead of tomato and cooked for a long time over hickory

 

> wood.  My

 

> own favorite way to eat it is with coleslaw sharing the

 

> fork at the

 

> same mouthful so I always order double on the slaw and

 

> forego the

 

> potato salad.

 

>

 

> Greensboro to Goldsboro is probably a little over 100

 

> miles. 

 

> However, if you come across a Smithfield's Barbeque

 

> anywhere, go to

 

> that as I like it too.  There are quite a few

 

> Smithfield's BBQ

 

> places.  I just went on the internet and they have a

 

> site at

 

> http://www.smithfieldschicken.com.html  I see there

 

> are ones in

 

> Raleigh and Garner, a lot closer to Greensboro.  You

 

> can find their

 

> locations on the site.

 

>

 

> I have also heard there is a bit of controversy

 

> concerning the

 

> relative merits of bbq from the eastern and western parts

 

> of NC.

 

>

 

> I think it would be great if we could get some of that

 

> great eastern

 

> Carolina bbq here in Illinois.

 

>

 

> By the way, what is a Merlefest?  Merle Haggard?

 

>

 

> Keep on Down that Two Lane Highway. -- RoadDog

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

> --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com,

 

> <thehinge@m...> wrote:

 

> >

 

> > I know what you're talking about, roaddog. 

 

> Ever been to

 

> > Parker's BBQ in Wilson, NC.? It's very good, too. I

 

> may fly

 

> > into Greensboro for the Merlefest music fest this

 

> > spring...how far is Goldsboro from Greensboro?

 

> >

 

> > Matt Smallwood

 

> >

 

> >

 

> >

 

> >

 

> >

 

> > On Mon, 02 Jan 2006 14:44:39 -0000

 

> >  "roaddog_rt66"

 

> <roaddog_rt66@y...> wrote:

 

> > >

 

> > >

 

> > >

 

> > >

 

> > > Remember to check out some of that great

 

> eastern North

 

> > > Carolina

 

> > > barbeque, push it around with hushpuppies, and

 

> wash it

 

> > > down with

 

> > > sweet tea.

 

> > >

 

> > > On your way back, if you have time, take US 70

 

> and stop

 

> > > at Wilber's

 

> > > BarbeQue on the US-70 bypass in Goldsboro,

 

> NC.&nbsp; Not

 

> > > only is the bbq

 

> > > superb, but the interior is pure southern

 

> dining at its

 

> > > finest.

 

> > >

 

> > > Go downtown and check out the Record Rack

 

> which, sadly to

 

> > > say, is

 

> > > closing after operating since 1972.&nbsp;

 

> You can pick up

 

> > > some Beach

 

> > > Music CDs and Stan Hartley will be happy to

 

> assist you in

 

> > > your

 

> > > selection.&nbsp; I hate to see another of

 

> the mom and pop

 

> > > record stores

 

> > > closing.

 

> > >

 

> > > You might be wondering just what Beach Music

 

> is.&nbsp;

 

> > > Most of you

 

> > > probably immediately thought of the Beach Boys

 

> or Jan and

 

> > > Dean.&nbsp;

 

> > > That would be very wrong.&nbsp; It is

 

> R&amp;B and many

 

> > > other influences

 

> > > dating from the 50s to the present. It has a

 

> very

 

> > > distinct beat you

 

> > > can dance to.&nbsp; The dance is called the

 

> Shag (NC's

 

> > > state dance), and

 

> > > I'm not talking about the shag in

 

> England.&nbsp; It is

 

> > > sort of like a

 

> > > slow bop.

 

> > >

 

> > > To get a good idea of it, and you go to

 

> beachshag on the

 

> > > internet

 

> > > and listen to Fessa John Hook's Endless Summer

 

> > > network.&nbsp;

 

> > > http://www.beachshag.com

 

> > >

 

> > > Also, check out the Fort Fisher Museum near the

 

> end of

 

> > > 421.&nbsp; This is

 

> > > a little-known, but very pivotal battle near

 

> the end of

 

> > > the Civil

 

> > > War.&nbsp; Right now, they have an

 

> Armstrong 100 pdr.

 

> > > cannon on temporary

 

> > > loan from West Point as well as a Whitworth

 

> cannon, one

 

> > > of the most

 

> > > advanced pieces of artillery at the

 

> time.&nbsp; You can

 

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And by the way, Roaddog, where do you live in Illinois? My

 

extended family almost entirely live within a fifty mile

 

radius of Effingham on the US 40/I-70 corridor.

 

 

 

My parents both grew up in that area. I live in

 

Wilmington, DE, where I grew up.

 

 

 

Matt Smallwood

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

On Tue, 03 Jan 2006 16:07:47 -0000

 

"roaddog_rt66" <roaddog_rt66@yahoo.com> wrote:

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

> Eastern NC barbeque is like none other that I've ever had

 

> and unless

 

> a person has tried it, it would be hard to explain, but

 

> I'll try. I

 

> know Matt knows what it is, because Parker's is every bit

 

> as good as

 

> Wilber's.  I probably shouldn't have said that as in

 

> eastern

 

> Carolina, this could be cause for a shootin' war as

 

> people take

 

> their bbq very seriously. Plus, I was born in Goldsboro

 

> and spent a

 

> lot of my early life there.

 

>

 

> First, it is pulled pork, not beef.  Then it has a

 

> vinegarbase

 

> instead of tomato and cooked for a long time over hickory

 

> wood.  My

 

> own favorite way to eat it is with coleslaw sharing the

 

> fork at the

 

> same mouthful so I always order double on the slaw and

 

> forego the

 

> potato salad.

 

>

 

> Greensboro to Goldsboro is probably a little over 100

 

> miles. 

 

> However, if you come across a Smithfield's Barbeque

 

> anywhere, go to

 

> that as I like it too.  There are quite a few

 

> Smithfield's BBQ

 

> places.  I just went on the internet and they have a

 

> site at

 

> http://www.smithfieldschicken.com.html  I see there

 

> are ones in

 

> Raleigh and Garner, a lot closer to Greensboro.  You

 

> can find their

 

> locations on the site.

 

>

 

> I have also heard there is a bit of controversy

 

> concerning the

 

> relative merits of bbq from the eastern and western parts

 

> of NC.

 

>

 

> I think it would be great if we could get some of that

 

> great eastern

 

> Carolina bbq here in Illinois.

 

>

 

> By the way, what is a Merlefest?  Merle Haggard?

 

>

 

> Keep on Down that Two Lane Highway. -- RoadDog

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

> --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com,

 

> <thehinge@m...> wrote:

 

> >

 

> > I know what you're talking about, roaddog. 

 

> Ever been to

 

> > Parker's BBQ in Wilson, NC.? It's very good, too. I

 

> may fly

 

> > into Greensboro for the Merlefest music fest this

 

> > spring...how far is Goldsboro from Greensboro?

 

> >

 

> > Matt Smallwood

 

> >

 

> >

 

> >

 

> >

 

> >

 

> > On Mon, 02 Jan 2006 14:44:39 -0000

 

> >  "roaddog_rt66"

 

> <roaddog_rt66@y...> wrote:

 

> > >

 

> > >

 

> > >

 

> > >

 

> > > Remember to check out some of that great

 

> eastern North

 

> > > Carolina

 

> > > barbeque, push it around with hushpuppies, and

 

> wash it

 

> > > down with

 

> > > sweet tea.

 

> > >

 

> > > On your way back, if you have time, take US 70

 

> and stop

 

> > > at Wilber's

 

> > > BarbeQue on the US-70 bypass in Goldsboro,

 

> NC.&nbsp; Not

 

> > > only is the bbq

 

> > > superb, but the interior is pure southern

 

> dining at its

 

> > > finest.

 

> > >

 

> > > Go downtown and check out the Record Rack

 

> which, sadly to

 

> > > say, is

 

> > > closing after operating since 1972.&nbsp;

 

> You can pick up

 

> > > some Beach

 

> > > Music CDs and Stan Hartley will be happy to

 

> assist you in

 

> > > your

 

> > > selection.&nbsp; I hate to see another of

 

> the mom and pop

 

> > > record stores

 

> > > closing.

 

> > >

 

> > > You might be wondering just what Beach Music

 

> is.&nbsp;

 

> > > Most of you

 

> > > probably immediately thought of the Beach Boys

 

> or Jan and

 

> > > Dean.&nbsp;

 

> > > That would be very wrong.&nbsp; It is

 

> R&amp;B and many

 

> > > other influences

 

> > > dating from the 50s to the present. It has a

 

> very

 

> > > distinct beat you

 

> > > can dance to.&nbsp; The dance is called the

 

> Shag (NC's

 

> > > state dance), and

 

> > > I'm not talking about the shag in

 

> England.&nbsp; It is

 

> > > sort of like a

 

> > > slow bop.

 

> > >

 

> > > To get a good idea of it, and you go to

 

> beachshag on the

 

> > > internet

 

> > > and listen to Fessa John Hook's Endless Summer

 

> > > network.&nbsp;

 

> > > http://www.beachshag.com

 

> > >

 

> > > Also, check out the Fort Fisher Museum near the

 

> end of

 

> > > 421.&nbsp; This is

 

> > > a little-known, but very pivotal battle near

 

> the end of

 

> > > the Civil

 

> > > War.&nbsp; Right now, they have an

 

> Armstrong 100 pdr.

 

> > > cannon on temporary

 

> > > loan from West Point as well as a Whitworth

 

> cannon, one

 

> > > of the most

 

> > > advanced pieces of artillery at the

 

> time.&nbsp; You can

 

> > > also learn about

 

> > > the blockade and blockade-running.

 

> > >

 

> > >

 

> > > Keep on Down that Two Lane Highway and a Happy

 

> New

 

> > > Year.--RoadDog

 

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> > > today.&nbsp; This is day 3

 

> > > of

 

> > > &gt; my US

 

> > > &gt; &gt; 421 trip.

 

> > > &gt; &gt; Started out Thursday in

 

> Michigan City, IN and

 

> > > made it into

 

> > > &gt; Wilmington, NC

 

> > > &gt; &gt; tonite.

 

> > > &gt; &gt; I left Bristol, VA this

 

> morning - the first

 

> > > part of the trip

 

> > > today thru

 

> > > &gt; &gt; TN was a crazy

 

> > > &gt; &gt; rollercoaster mountain

 

> drive.&nbsp; More on

 

> > > this later.

 

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> > > &gt; &gt; Happy new year everyone!!

 

> > > &gt; &gt;

 

> > > &gt; &gt; ypsi-slim

 

> > > &gt; &gt;

 

> > > &gt; &gt; On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 19:36:32

 

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> > > egyptianzipper@a... writes:

 

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Hi Jonathan,

 

 

 

Sounds as if you have a great trip planned. I am forwarding your request and

 

information on to a few folks involved with Route 66 from California to

 

Oklahoma. It is also being posted on the two most popular Yahoo E-Groups

 

that pertain to Route 66 and all the other two lane roads. Hopefully this

 

will generate some interest in your project.

 

 

 

Your web site is easy to follow and has good data on your project. Will you

 

be keeping it up to-date as you 'run' the road? If you have ever traveled

 

Route 66 you already know that it is the people that work, live and travel

 

the road that makes it what it is. You will make many new friends each and

 

every time you travel the road, all two lane roads.

 

 

 

I will put your itinerary into my schedule and hopefully I will see you a

 

few times as you move east.

 

 

 

Thanks for getting in contact with us and it is our pleasure to support you.

 

 

 

Take care and see you on the road.

 

 

 

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California Route 66 Preservation Foundation

 

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From: Jonathan Williams [mailto:willy@runwillyrun.com]

 

Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2005 7:40 AM

 

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Below is the result of your feedback form. It was submitted by

 

Jonathan Williams (willy@runwillyrun.com) on Saturday, January 15, 2005 at

 

09:40:06

 

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Contact_StreetAddress: 34 West Point Terr

 

 

 

Contact_City: West Hartford

 

 

 

Contact_State: CT

 

 

 

Contact_ZipCode: 06107

 

 

 

Contact_Country: USA

 

 

 

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California_Route_66_Preservation: Hello California Route 66,

 

 

 

My Name is Jonathan Williams. In March, I will be running from Newport

 

Beach, CA to Newport, RI. A good part of my journey is going to be along

 

66. Along the way I am looking for housing and encouraging people to run

 

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hearing from you.

 

 

 

Cheers,

 

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Art Deco Beauty, To Go

 

By: Susan Van Dongen , TimeOFF 01/21/2004

 

 

 

Robert O. Williams writes about 'Hometown Diners' with a side

 

order of color photos.

 

 

 

EEEJean Georges on the Upper West Side of Manhattan and Le

 

Bec-Fin on Walnut Street in Philadelphia are five-star

 

restaurants, run by celebrity chefs, where you can savor

 

sweetbreads au cocotte with ginger and licorice, or asparagus

 

with morels au jus.

 

EEEBut you can't get an open-faced turkey sandwich with mashed

 

potatoes and gravy at 4 a.m., served by a helmet-haired waitress

 

named Doris who calls you "hon." And you won't see members

 

of garage bands flip through the jukebox looking for old Doors

 

tunes, sobering up while awaiting their post-concert repast, with

 

professional denizens of the night comparing notes and

 

counting their earnings at the next booth. For all this and more,

 

you have to pull into one of New Jersey's many open-all-night

 

diners N as much of our state's pop culture as traffic circles and

 

Bruce Springsteen.

 

 

 

EEE"Comedian George Carlin once observed that there is a

 

tollbooth every 30 yards in New Jersey," photographer and

 

author Robert O. Williams writes in the text of his book

 

Hometown Diners (Harry N. Abrams, 1999). "(Carlin) might also

 

have noticed a diner every mile, and maybe that's not surprising

 

because diners are still built in New Jersey at Kullman

 

Industries and Paramount, just as they were (45) years ago. For

 

whatever reason, the state seems filled with stainless-steel

 

diners that never seem to close."

 

 

 

read more here -

 

http://makeashorterlink.com/?S12425637

 

 

 

Hometown Diners by Robert O. Williams (Harry N. Abrams,

 

$29.95) can be ordered on the Web: www.abramsbooks.com

 

________________________________________

 

 

 

The Diner Never Sleeps

 

By: Jillian Kalonick , TimeOFF 01/21/2004

 

 

 

Business is bustling all night long as famished insomniacs

 

come in from the cold.

 

 

 

At the intersection of Routes 130 and 206 in Bordentown sits

 

Mastoris, the mother of Jersey diners and the only restaurant

 

where I, a nonsmoker, prefer the smoking section. The "Mastors

 

Lounge" (sic) is a throwback to men's club barrooms, complete

 

with taxidermy and oil paintings. I gladly wave away cigarette

 

fumes to sit in the dimly lit time warp, to watch old men watch

 

sports, to eat a huge stack of pancakes to chase away a

 

hangover, to pretend it's whatever time of day it's not. . . .

 

 

 

EEETo me, this is the essence of the diner as late-night spot, a

 

safe haven from time of day and even time in history. To a

 

relative newcomer to New Jersey, who has bounced all over the

 

country, the diner is a revolutionary concept for me: a 24-hour

 

establishment that isn't the Waffle House and actually has a

 

staggering variety of good-tasting food. I view New Jersey as a

 

defiantly non-trendy zone; for late-night entertainment I opt out of

 

the bars and the clubs and go to the diner instead.

 

EEEIn addition to Mastoris, run by a family that has Jersey diner

 

roots dating back to 1927, my all-night diner spree included a trip

 

10 miles north on Route 206 to Pat's Diner, a true 24-hour joint

 

that's a legendary after-bar destination; and 10 miles north on

 

Route 130 to the Americana in East Windsor, a modern diner

 

where a '50s truck stop once stood.

 

 

 

http://makeashorterlink.com/?B4A424637

 

 

 

Mastoris is located at Routes 130 and 206 in Bordentown.

 

On the Web: www.mastoris.com

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> We visited Kansas City once and went to a place I think was called

 

> Arthur something or another. It is a very famous place, but I can't

 

> remember the name right now. This was fantastic stuff and came

 

> piled high on a bun. It served as lunch the next day.

 

 

 

Arthur Bryant's. The sauces there are really odd, not like any BBQ

 

I've ever had.

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Open house events continue in 2004.

 

 

 

Announcing an Open House at the Goffs Schoolhouse Museum and Cultural Center

 

On February 7-8, 2004

 

 

 

 

 

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE:

 

January 27, 2004

 

 

 

FOR MORE INFORMATION:

 

 

 

Jo Ann Casebier

 

Mojave Desert Heritage & Cultural Association

 

37198 Lanfair Road -- Goffs

 

Essex, CA 92332

 

Phone 760-733-4482

 

email goffs@eastmojave.net

 

 

 

 

 

The Goffs Schoolhouse Museum and Cultural Center Plans Open House Weekends to

 

Introduce Visitors to a Treasure of the East Mojave and a must see attraction

 

on Route 66

 

 

 

 

 

GOFFS SCHOOLHOUSE MUSEUM and CULTURAL CENTER

 

 

 

MONTHLY OPEN HOUSE EVENTS

 

 

 

2004

 

 

 

 

 

The Mojave Desert Heritage & Cultural Association announces monthly open

 

house events at the Goffs Schoolhouse for 2004. The Schoolhouse and adjacent

 

Cultural Center grounds will be open for public visitation the first weekend of

 

each month from January through June and October through December 9:00 a.m.

 

through 5:00 p.m. (Specific weekends are: 3-4 January, 7-8 February, 6-7 March,

 

3-4

 

April, 1-2 May, 5-6 June, 2-3 October, 6-7 November, 4-5 December).

 

 

 

The Goffs Schoolhouse was constructed in 1914 and served the region until

 

1937, at which time it was abandoned. The Goffs Schoolhouse is one of the few

 

remaining structures in Goffs located on the original 1926 alignment of U. S.

 

Highway 66. It served the needs of families of railroaders, highway merchants,

 

miners, and ranchers.

 

 

 

The Schoolhouse was restored to its 1914 configuration by the Association in

 

1998. Some work is ongoing, but it is now fitted out with displays of artwork

 

and artifacts depicting the cultural history of the Mojave Desert. There are

 

many artifacts (old vehicles, mining machinery, and much more) in an outdoor

 

museum. To facilitate public visitation, the Association has published a "Guide

 

to the Goffs Cultural Center" booklet for the convenience of visitors, which

 

is keyed to 40 numbered stations inside the Schoolhouse and about 100 numbered

 

pegs around the grounds. With this interpretive aide, visitors can spend

 

several hours enjoying a self-guided tour of the displays. Picnic areas are

 

available.

 

 

 

On October 11, 2001, the Goffs Schoolhouse was placed on the National

 

Register of Historic Places by the U. S. Department of the Interior. It is one

 

of the

 

few buildings along old U. S. Highway 66 in California and the only one-room

 

schoolhouse in all of southern California on the national register.

 

 

 

The Mojave Desert Heritage & Cultural Association was formed as a nonprofit

 

tax-exempt corporation in 1993 with a mission to: "research and educate the

 

public with the natural and cultural history of the Mojave Desert regions

 

through

 

operation of a regional research center including a library and archives,

 

restoration of historic buildings, interpretation of backcountry trails,

 

publication of educational guide books and historical monographs and periodicals

 

in

 

concert with government agencies and people of good faith everywhere."

 

 

 

The Mojave Desert Archives, situated in buildings adjacent to the Goffs

 

Schoolhouse, embraces more than 6,000 volumes pertaining to the history of the

 

Desert West, more than 700 taped oral history interviews conducted with desert

 

"old-timers" with firsthand knowledge, more then 40,000 historical photographs

 

of

 

the Desert west, 4,000 historic maps, and much more. These materials are in

 

special collections that can be made available with advance arrangement to

 

qualified students and writers doing in-depth research on the Mojave Desert.

 

 

 

No charge is made for admission to the Schoolhouse and adjacent property, but

 

donations are welcome.

 

 

 

Directions: From the direction of Barstow, take I-40 east about 110 miles to

 

a point one mile east of Fenner Rest Stop and exit the Interstate at Goffs

 

Road. Turn left under the freeway bridge and follow blacktop Goffs Road for 11

 

miles to Goffs.

 

 

 

From the Needles or Las Vegas areas, take U.S. Highway 95 south (from

 

Searchlight) or north (from I-40 up out of Needles) to the point where 95

 

crosses the

 

main line of the Burlington Northern Santa Fe Railway. Turn west on Goffs

 

Road (south of the tracks) and travel 14 miles to Goffs.

 

 

 

The Schoolhouse is on the north side of the tracks at the intersection of

 

Goffs and Lanfair Roads -- for positive identification, there are two windmills

 

on the Goffs Schoolhouse property, the only ones in Goffs.

 

 

 

Special arrangements can be made for visitation to the Schoolhouse by groups

 

or at other times during the year by appointment. For additional information,

 

contact the Association at 760-733-4482 -- or email goffs@eastmojave.net -- or

 

visit the Association's Web site at www.mdhca.org.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

For additional information contact:

 

 

 

 

 

Jo Ann Casebier

 

Mojave Desert Heritage & Cultural Association

 

37198 Lanfair Road -- Goffs

 

Essex, CA 92332

 

Phone 760-733-4482

 

email goffs@eastmojave.net

 

 

 

or

 

 

 

Helen Baker

 

818-705-3930

 

bakerhab@aol.com

 

 

 

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In a message dated 1/15/5 9:14:13 PM, you wrote:

 

 

 

<<It is also being posted on the two most popular Yahoo E-Groups

 

that pertain to Route 66 and all the other two lane roads.>>

 

 

 

Dave in Seattle here

 

 

 

Me and my mom took a little trip just after christmas from

 

Tacoma to Seattle on 'old 99' as we have always called it

 

since I-5 replaced it in the 60s. My mom doesn't enjoy the

 

freeway at all because of all the fast traffic so the old

 

road was much more comfortable to her.

 

 

 

it's a nice 'two lane' road, we took the two northbound lanes.

 

US 99 was relocated as an entirely new fourlane highway

 

in the late 1920s replacing the twolane Pacific Highway

 

alignment several miles to the east.

 

 

 

It was interesting to see the latest developments on the

 

old road, there are wide medians with curbs and plantings

 

being installed in several locations in order to prevent

 

dangerous left turns.

 

 

 

There is the usual turnover in roadside businesses which

 

reflect cultural trends, new tattoo parlors for example.

 

 

 

It was interesting to see that quite a few Quonset huts

 

from the postwar boom are still around in varying states

 

of decay. These are mostly part of the automotive industry.

 

 

 

So here is the reason I am writing, besides the road report...

 

 

 

(there was a new member a few months back who mentioned

 

she was looking forward to reading the road reports, in my

 

experience here they are few and far between)

 

 

 

surely a fourlane road from the late 20s qualifies as historic.

 

there are many fourlane sections of the dear old mother road.

 

you could probably come up with some sixlane historic roads.

 

 

 

so is there something special about two lane roads, are the

 

people friendlier, the milkshakes colder, the french fries fresher...

 

 

 

(speaking of fries, the Pikquik, a classic dinky drive-in on 99

 

in Fife was closed for the winter, will reopen in the spring,

 

it is now surrounded by car lots, it's former neighbor, the

 

Fife Drive-In Theater is long gone, when I-5 was first

 

built they had to put up a tall fence along the theater

 

as it was too distracting.)

 

 

 

sure there is something special about two lane roads

 

 

 

and I think there is something special about fourlane, sixlane,

 

eightlane, tenlane................

 

 

 

(Robert Heinlein wrote a story about the roads of the future,

 

they had a ten mile right of way, five miles wide in each

 

direction, they hade five lanes ranging from one to five

 

hundred mph, the faster cars had autopilot of course.)

 

 

 

so is there a really a twolane bias or am I (and those people

 

following me) just paranoid...

 

 

 

sometimes I think the idea that twolane roads are best is a

 

reaction to corporate culture where everywhere looks the same.

 

like it or not this is our roadside culture of today and I think

 

that it too will be the object of nostalgia after a few decades.

 

 

 

so here is the question that has been on my mind for weeks now,

 

does anybody in this group care that the 50th anniversary of the

 

Interstate Highway Act is coming up next year, it seems like a big

 

deal to me and I wonder if anyone else here really cares.

 

 

 

the magazine that lends its name to this group proclaims

 

on the top of the cover, 'celebrating the two lane roads of

 

the past and the present' if I remember right. Will American

 

Road be covering the golden anniversary, I wonder.

 

 

 

So where are the road reports...

 

And how many lanes can a 'good' road have...

 

What is a 'good' road anyhow...

 

 

 

here's an idea, whenever you get bored because there

 

isn't enough to interest you on the particular road

 

that you find yourself driving on just ask yourself

 

 

 

what would George R. Stewart do...

 

 

 

The writer of US 40 managed to find interest in what

 

the mainstream find mundane, I suspect George didn't

 

gave a darn how many lanes a road had. Stewart kept

 

his eyes open and had an inquisitive mind, even when

 

he found a stretch of road monotonous that in itself

 

notable to him.

 

 

 

so back to the old 99 road report

 

going north down the long grade to the Duwamish R there

 

is relatively little development due to the hillside but near

 

the bottom was a brand spanking new five story suburban

 

style freestanding office building clad in brick and green glass,

 

the local headquarters of the new agency that issues color coded

 

threat warnings.

 

 

 

a few miles N is the Museum of Flight alongside Boeing Field

 

and Boeing Plant Two. The museum must be doing some work

 

because they had moved a few of their exhibits across the

 

road to a parking lot. We pulled over and took a good look

 

at the Concorde SST and the 707 Airforce One.

 

 

 

further N was the former site of the Hat n' Boots gas station,

 

these famous roadside icons had been derelict and threatened

 

for years, we found its new location in a neighborhood park

 

a few blocks off the highway.

 

 

 

the boots which once were restrooms looked good but they could

 

use some paint, the cowboy hat office is reduced to its steel bones.

 

Maybe a new concrete skin this year, the preservation effort

 

and move came in at well under six figures, all volunteer and

 

donations, no public funding.

 

 

 

When I was a kid I always knew when we were approaching the

 

Hat n' Boots and would sometimes succeed in getting my dad

 

to stop there for gas.

 

 

 

This is a four lane road we are talking about here, all the

 

way from Tacoma to Seattle.

 

 

 

Almost all the way, the long causeway and bridge over the

 

Puyallup R is now three lanes. I always get a laugh out of

 

my mom when I point out they now have two lanes leaving

 

town and one lane going in.

 

 

 

So how about some road reports from some of you and I don't

 

care how many lanes...CARmudgeonly yours, Dave

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