Guest roaddog_rt66 Posted March 2, 2006 Report Share Posted March 2, 2006 --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "bugo" <bugo@h...> wrote: > > --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "roaddog_rt66" > > We visited Kansas City once and went to a place I think was called > > Arthur something or another. It is a very famous place, but I can't > > remember the name right now. This was fantastic stuff and came > > piled high on a bun. It served as lunch the next day. > > Arthur Bryant's. The sauces there are really odd, not like any BBQ > I've ever had. > Thanks for the name. That was a unique place and I'll go back when I'm in KC again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rudkip@sbcglobal.net> Posted March 2, 2006 Report Share Posted March 2, 2006 I've been to many a fine BBQ joint in my time, but still have not found BBQ that compares to that found in Dexter, MO...the sauce is not the issue; it is all smoked, it is all good! Hickory Log has a fine chew it on the bone type rib; Dexter BBQ has a fine "fall off the bone meat" type rib; Leon's Dexter Queen has a fine BBQ sandwich; and the 225 Liquor Store has some excellent BBQ chicken. Dexter is on US 60 between Poplar Bluff and Sikeston...after you have filled yer gullet, rest a spell at the Hickory House Motel...long live pig! Tsingtao Kip ----- Original Message ----- From: "bugo" <bugo@hotmail.com> To: <AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2006 4:06 PM Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Re: Road Trips Trivia Question > --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "roaddog_rt66" > > We visited Kansas City once and went to a place I think was called > > Arthur something or another. It is a very famous place, but I can't > > remember the name right now. This was fantastic stuff and came > > piled high on a bun. It served as lunch the next day. > > Arthur Bryant's. The sauces there are really odd, not like any BBQ > I've ever had. > > > > > > > > Visit our homepage at: http://www.mockturtlepress.com > > To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE TOLL-FREE 1-877-285-5434 WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! > Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 3168, Lynnwood, WA 98046-3168 > SUBSCRIPTION RATES: > 1 year (4 issues) for $15.95 > (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) > 2 years (8 issues) for $27.95 > (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) > > > For questions about the list, contact: AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com > > To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.comTo POST a message via e-mail, send it to: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest roaddog_rt66 Posted March 2, 2006 Report Share Posted March 2, 2006 I live in the northeast corner, about eight miles from the Wisconsin border. Last summer, we did the National Road from one end of Illinois to the other. Mighty pretty land. RoadDog -- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, <thehinge@m...> wrote: > > And by the way, Roaddog, where do you live in Illinois? My > extended family almost entirely live within a fifty mile > radius of Effingham on the US 40/I-70 corridor. > > My parents both grew up in that area. I live in > Wilmington, DE, where I grew up. > > Matt Smallwood > > > > On Tue, 03 Jan 2006 16:07:47 -0000 > "roaddog_rt66" <roaddog_rt66@y...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Eastern NC barbeque is like none other that I've ever had > > and unless > > a person has tried it, it would be hard to explain, but > > I'll try. I > > know Matt knows what it is, because Parker's is every bit > > as good as > > Wilber's. I probably shouldn't have said that as in > > eastern > > Carolina, this could be cause for a shootin' war as > > people take > > their bbq very seriously. Plus, I was born in Goldsboro > > and spent a > > lot of my early life there. > > > > First, it is pulled pork, not beef. Then it has a > > vinegarbase > > instead of tomato and cooked for a long time over hickory > > wood. My > > own favorite way to eat it is with coleslaw sharing the > > fork at the > > same mouthful so I always order double on the slaw and > > forego the > > potato salad. > > > > Greensboro to Goldsboro is probably a little over 100 > > miles. > > However, if you come across a Smithfield's Barbeque > > anywhere, go to > > that as I like it too. There are quite a few > > Smithfield's BBQ > > places. I just went on the internet and they have a > > site at > > http://www.smithfieldschicken.com.html I see there > > are ones in > > Raleigh and Garner, a lot closer to Greensboro. You > > can find their > > locations on the site. > > > > I have also heard there is a bit of controversy > > concerning the > > relative merits of bbq from the eastern and western parts > > of NC. > > > > I think it would be great if we could get some of that > > great eastern > > Carolina bbq here in Illinois. > > > > By the way, what is a Merlefest? Merle Haggard? > > > > Keep on Down that Two Lane Highway. -- RoadDog > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, > > thehinge@m... wrote: > > > > > > I know what you're talking about, roaddog. > > Ever been to > > > Parker's BBQ in Wilson, NC.? It's very good, too. I > > may fly > > > into Greensboro for the Merlefest music fest this > > > spring...how far is Goldsboro from Greensboro? > > > > > > Matt Smallwood > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 02 Jan 2006 14:44:39 -0000 > > > "roaddog_rt66" > > roaddog_rt66@y... wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Remember to check out some of that great > > eastern North > > > > Carolina > > > > barbeque, push it around with hushpuppies, and > > wash it > > > > down with > > > > sweet tea. > > > > > > > > On your way back, if you have time, take US 70 > > and stop > > > > at Wilber's > > > > BarbeQue on the US-70 bypass in Goldsboro, > > NC. Not > > > > only is the bbq > > > > superb, but the interior is pure southern > > dining at its > > > > finest. > > > > > > > > Go downtown and check out the Record Rack > > which, sadly to > > > > say, is > > > > closing after operating since 1972. > > You can pick up > > > > some Beach > > > > Music CDs and Stan Hartley will be happy to > > assist you in > > > > your > > > > selection. I hate to see another of > > the mom and pop > > > > record stores > > > > closing. > > > > > > > > You might be wondering just what Beach Music > > is. > > > > Most of you > > > > probably immediately thought of the Beach Boys > > or Jan and > > > > Dean. > > > > That would be very wrong. It is > > R&B and many > > > > other influences > > > > dating from the 50s to the present. It has a > > very > > > > distinct beat you > > > > can dance to. The dance is called the > > Shag (NC's > > > > state dance), and > > > > I'm not talking about the shag in > > England. It is > > > > sort of like a > > > > slow bop. > > > > > > > > To get a good idea of it, and you go to > > beachshag on the > > > > internet > > > > and listen to Fessa John Hook's Endless Summer > > > > network. > > > > http://www.beachshag.com > > > > > > > > Also, check out the Fort Fisher Museum near the > > end of > > > > 421. This is > > > > a little-known, but very pivotal battle near > > the end of > > > > the Civil > > > > War. Right now, they have an > > Armstrong 100 pdr. > > > > cannon on temporary > > > > loan from West Point as well as a Whitworth > > cannon, one > > > > of the most > > > > advanced pieces of artillery at the > > time. You can > > > > also learn about > > > > the blockade and blockade-running. > > > > > > > > > > > > Keep on Down that Two Lane Highway and a Happy > > New > > > > Year.--RoadDog > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, > > "Bob > > > > Reynolds" > > > > roustabout@s... wrote: > > > > > > > > > > --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, > > "Russell > > > > S. Rein" > > > > > Ypsi-slim@j... wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > I can't remember but I > > believe I was on it > > > > today. This is day 3 > > > > of > > > > > my US > > > > > > 421 trip. > > > > > > Started out Thursday in > > Michigan City, IN and > > > > made it into > > > > > Wilmington, NC > > > > > > tonite. > > > > > > I left Bristol, VA this > > morning - the first > > > > part of the trip > > > > today thru > > > > > > TN was a crazy > > > > > > rollercoaster mountain > > drive. 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Guest roaddog_rt66 Posted March 2, 2006 Report Share Posted March 2, 2006 That will be a place to go in 2007 after I retire from teaching. By the way, if you know anyone who likes the movie Groundhog Day, and lives in northeast Illinois or is willing to drive, Woodstock has a festival honoring where the movie was filmed the weekend before Groundhog Day. A whole lot of the movie was filmed on location. The last two years, we had people involved with the movie give tours and provide interesting insight. Two years ago it was the actor who played Ned, "Watch that first step. it's a doozie" and last year the site manager. RoadDog --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, <thehinge@m...> wrote: > > Merlefest was named after Merle Watson, the deceased > brother to Doc Watson, the North Carolina folk singer. > It's held the last weekend of April (Thurs-Sunday) on the > campus of Wilkes Community College in North Wilkesboro, NC. > 40-50 acts attend every year. If you like bluegrasss and > old-timey country music, I highly recommend the festival. > > North Wilkesboro about 60 miles east of Winston-Salem on US > 421, so it's an easy drive from that area. I definitely > plan on attending this spring. Check out the list of > musicians at merlefest.org, Roaddog. > > Matt Smallwood > > > > > > > On Tue, 03 Jan 2006 16:07:47 -0000 > "roaddog_rt66" <roaddog_rt66@y...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Eastern NC barbeque is like none other that I've ever had > > and unless > > a person has tried it, it would be hard to explain, but > > I'll try. I > > know Matt knows what it is, because Parker's is every bit > > as good as > > Wilber's. I probably shouldn't have said that as in > > eastern > > Carolina, this could be cause for a shootin' war as > > people take > > their bbq very seriously. Plus, I was born in Goldsboro > > and spent a > > lot of my early life there. > > > > First, it is pulled pork, not beef. Then it has a > > vinegarbase > > instead of tomato and cooked for a long time over hickory > > wood. My > > own favorite way to eat it is with coleslaw sharing the > > fork at the > > same mouthful so I always order double on the slaw and > > forego the > > potato salad. > > > > Greensboro to Goldsboro is probably a little over 100 > > miles. > > However, if you come across a Smithfield's Barbeque > > anywhere, go to > > that as I like it too. There are quite a few > > Smithfield's BBQ > > places. I just went on the internet and they have a > > site at > > http://www.smithfieldschicken.com.html I see there > > are ones in > > Raleigh and Garner, a lot closer to Greensboro. You > > can find their > > locations on the site. > > > > I have also heard there is a bit of controversy > > concerning the > > relative merits of bbq from the eastern and western parts > > of NC. > > > > I think it would be great if we could get some of that > > great eastern > > Carolina bbq here in Illinois. > > > > By the way, what is a Merlefest? Merle Haggard? > > > > Keep on Down that Two Lane Highway. -- RoadDog > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, > > thehinge@m... wrote: > > > > > > I know what you're talking about, roaddog. > > Ever been to > > > Parker's BBQ in Wilson, NC.? It's very good, too. I > > may fly > > > into Greensboro for the Merlefest music fest this > > > spring...how far is Goldsboro from Greensboro? > > > > > > Matt Smallwood > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 02 Jan 2006 14:44:39 -0000 > > > "roaddog_rt66" > > roaddog_rt66@y... wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Remember to check out some of that great > > eastern North > > > > Carolina > > > > barbeque, push it around with hushpuppies, and > > wash it > > > > down with > > > > sweet tea. > > > > > > > > On your way back, if you have time, take US 70 > > and stop > > > > at Wilber's > > > > BarbeQue on the US-70 bypass in Goldsboro, > > NC. Not > > > > only is the bbq > > > > superb, but the interior is pure southern > > dining at its > > > > finest. > > > > > > > > Go downtown and check out the Record Rack > > which, sadly to > > > > say, is > > > > closing after operating since 1972. > > You can pick up > > > > some Beach > > > > Music CDs and Stan Hartley will be happy to > > assist you in > > > > your > > > > selection. I hate to see another of > > the mom and pop > > > > record stores > > > > closing. > > > > > > > > You might be wondering just what Beach Music > > is. > > > > Most of you > > > > probably immediately thought of the Beach Boys > > or Jan and > > > > Dean. > > > > That would be very wrong. It is > > R&B and many > > > > other influences > > > > dating from the 50s to the present. It has a > > very > > > > distinct beat you > > > > can dance to. The dance is called the > > Shag (NC's > > > > state dance), and > > > > I'm not talking about the shag in > > England. It is > > > > sort of like a > > > > slow bop. > > > > > > > > To get a good idea of it, and you go to > > beachshag on the > > > > internet > > > > and listen to Fessa John Hook's Endless Summer > > > > network. > > > > http://www.beachshag.com > > > > > > > > Also, check out the Fort Fisher Museum near the > > end of > > > > 421. This is > > > > a little-known, but very pivotal battle near > > the end of > > > > the Civil > > > > War. Right now, they have an > > Armstrong 100 pdr. > > > > cannon on temporary > > > > loan from West Point as well as a Whitworth > > cannon, one > > > > of the most > > > > advanced pieces of artillery at the > > time. You can > > > > also learn about > > > > the blockade and blockade-running. > > > > > > > > > > > > Keep on Down that Two Lane Highway and a Happy > > New > > > > Year.--RoadDog > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, > > "Bob > > > > Reynolds" > > > > roustabout@s... wrote: > > > > > > > > > > --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, > > "Russell > > > > S. Rein" > > > > > Ypsi-slim@j... wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > I can't remember but I > > believe I was on it > > > > today. This is day 3 > > > > of > > > > > my US > > > > > > 421 trip. > > > > > > Started out Thursday in > > Michigan City, IN and > > > > made it into > > > > > Wilmington, NC > > > > > > tonite. > > > > > > I left Bristol, VA this > > morning - the first > > > > part of the trip > > > > today thru > > > > > > TN was a crazy > > > > > > rollercoaster mountain > > drive. More on > > > > this later. > > > > > > > > > > > > Happy new year everyone!! > > > > > > > > > > > > ypsi-slim > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 19:36:32 > > EST > > > > egyptianzipper@a... writes: > > > > > > In a message dated 12/31/05 > > 9:58:34 AM Eastern > > > > Standard Time, > > > > > > hester_nec@y... writes: > > > > > > I have a trivia question for > > everyone this > > > > morning - where doe U > > > > S > > > > > > highways 60, 61 and 62 > > intersect??? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==================================================================== > > > > > > And where to US routes 221, > > 321 and 421 > > > > intersect? > > > > > > > > > > > > Tom Hoffman > > > > > > Pearisburg VA > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That would be Boone, NC > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Visit our homepage at: > > http://www.mockturtlepress.com > > > > > > > > To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE > > TOLL-FREE > > > > 1-877-285-5434 WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! > > > > Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box > > 3168, > > > > Lynnwood, WA 98046-3168 > > > > SUBSCRIPTION RATES: > > > > 1 year (4 issues) for $15.95 > > > > (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) > > > > 2 years (8 issues) for $27.95 > > > > (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) > > > > > > > > > > > > For questions about the list, contact: > > > > AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > > > To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: > > > > AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@y... 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Guest Ken - Posted March 2, 2006 Report Share Posted March 2, 2006 I think he is referring to the section of road between Gray Summit and the old Diamond's Restaurant. MO100 joined US50/66 at Gray Summit (going west) until the old Diamond's where MO100 veered to right (currently street signed as "Old Hwy 100") and US50/66 continue to the left. This was true until I-44 was built (not sure of the year but think it was in the late 60's). Ken ----- Original Message ----- Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2006 19:56:43 -0600 From: "David Backlin" Subject: Re: Re: Road Trips Trivia Question ----- Original Message ----- From: "bugo" To: Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 7:44 PM Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Re: Road Trips Trivia Question > --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, wrote: >> >> Anyone know if MO 94, which runs along the Missouri River, >> used to be signed as a US highway? > > I'm pretty sure it wasn't, but its southern > counterpart, MO 100, was once signed as US 50 > east of the US 50/I-44 split. Also US66 from 1926-1932 -- ___________________________________________________ Play 100s of games for FREE! http://games.mail.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Denny Gibson Posted March 2, 2006 Report Share Posted March 2, 2006 Welcome to the group and thanks for verifying that Baker's is what it looks like. You can't beat hearing from someone who has actually stayed at a motel. I have visited the National Road Museum and it and the road itself are what draws me to that area. And it is Baker's proximity to the museum that attracted me to it. I've also stopped at the Glenn house twice but it was closed both times. No fault of theirs - just bad timing on my part. --Denny > -----Original Message----- > From: Cristy [mailto:clfritz@yahoo.com] > Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 10:41 PM > To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Re: Question about Baker's Motel - Zanesville > > > I was not a member during the original discussion so I don't know if I > am repeating anything. I stayed at the Baker a couple of years ago. It > is a standard motel, was clean and reasonably priced. There is a > restaurant very near the motel but it changes hands frequently and can > be open or closed. I'm not sure of its current status. The museum is > nice but small. I love the history of the National Road but only spent > an hour there. The location is great. Its close to Zanesville where > you can explore all of the potteries (bypass the tourist outlet ones > on the freeway and go in town to the real working potteries). Of > course you have the national road, with some mile markers still there > and s-bridges if you go north toward New Concord. The John Glenn home > is open in New Concord also. > > Cristy > London, Ohio > > --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "Denny Gibson" <denny@...> wrote: > > > > Back in August okydokey89 (a.k.a. Jabba) asked about motels near > Zanesville, > > OH. The discussion was sort of steered toward Baker's near the National > > Road/Zane Grey Museum. I don't recall any subsequent report and it > appears > > that okydokey89 is no longer a member of the group - at least not by > that > > name. Has anyone (including Jabba) learned anything about Baker's since > > August (or before, even)? From the web, it looks promising and, unless I > > hear something here to dissuade me, I'll probably stay there some > time this > > spring. > > > > Denny Gibson > > Cincinnati, OH > > www.DennyGibson.com > > Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Scott Piotrowski Posted March 2, 2006 Report Share Posted March 2, 2006 Three words for you: Soda Pop Stop Soda Pop Stop and Galco's Old World Market in Highland Park (Los Angeles), California, can be found online at www.sodapopstop.com or in the Federation News a couple of years ago, when I wrote an article about them. The business has around 500 different sodas from across the country, many of them the old-fashioned recipes. They are located just off of US-66, about halfway between the Construction and Alternate Alignments. Let them know I sent you! Scott Piotrowski, Director 66 Productions www.66productions.com --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "roaddog_rt66" <roaddog_rt66@...> wrote: > > Or is it? The next time you're tooling down the road, or in your > neighborhood, stop in at a Mexican grocery store and order a Mexican > Coca Cola. Ask for one at your favorite Mexican eatery. > > In an article from the Medill News Service, Juan Carlos Hernandez > states that a Coke from Mexico is not like one you get from the US. > According to him, besides coming in a bottle (and it won't be long > before our kids won't even know what a bottle of pop is other than > special editions), Mexican Coke includes sugar made from sugarcane. > This is a lot sweeter than US Coke which gets its sweetness from corn > syrup. > > It will cost a bit more, but, I believe variety is the spice of life. > I, myself, haven't tried one yet. Perhaps we can get some insight > from someone. > > Drinking that Sweet Coke down that Two Lane Highway. -- RoadDog > Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jerrymc66 Posted March 2, 2006 Report Share Posted March 2, 2006 Ron, Thanks for asking about the release date of the new guidebook, but right now "later this year" is as approximate as I can get! I'll keep you posted. IWe should be able to narrow the date down after I get back from the final research trips (got to make sure its up to date!) Jerry Message: 1 Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2004 21:07:26 -0000 From: "rwarn17588" <RWarn17588@aol.com> Subject: Re: New Guidebook to Rte 66 --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "jerrymc66" <jerrymc66@p...> wrote: > Press Release > > 2-25-2004 > > Announcing the coming of a brand new Guidebook to Route 66! > Any approximate dates on the release date of this book, Jerry? Ron Warnick Belleville, IL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Matt Smallwood Posted March 2, 2006 Report Share Posted March 2, 2006 Sorry, I missed this email before, Dave. See, I'm a member of like five groups at any time and I switch inboxes, get the weekly posts, and read on the websites now and then when I get more than like one or two messages a day from a single group. That tends to be too much load for me....lol. I should be a little more industrious, I suppose. Yeah, I couldn't keep track of all those groups....lol. You'd almost have to check the inbox on the sites at a few a day, huh. Some are busier than others, this I know I'm in the Route 40 group and it's traffic typically peters out to almost nothing in the winter months...not even one posting a month. Me and Pat B. from Indiana noticed that last month. I lost my old yahoo user name a few months ago and thought I might not be a member of that group as my Yahoo inbox didn't exist any more. He said, nope, there had only been like one Route 40 post since November. Of course, yahoo does make it a little easier for everyone by giving us the groups home page with all the memberships. You are my personal idol with the amount of information that you take in.....lol. Matt Smallwood ----- Original Message ----- From: D Gardner To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 11:13 AM Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Re: Yahoo Categorization? Hi Matt, <sigh> I guess I'm an information junkie...(being a technical editor/writer, a former homeschooler and public school teacher, a freelance writer, and a son of two English teachers/librarians... hasn't really given me much hope in burying out of my books and papers (and now my files on the computer! <sigh>) ) I have about 120 groups--most of them I read only at the website (no email)... a few I have for important notifications of meetings and such... some are for my professional organizations (Prepaid Legal, Society for Technical Communication, Legal Issues, Marine Biologists, etc) and some pertain more to my hobbies (Organic Gardening, American Road! <grin>, Photography, Novel Writing)... and some are for my other interests (Languages: Japanese, Chinese, Russian. Tropical Islands and Beaches, Snorkeling, SCUBA Diving, Trekking).... My wife thinks I'm nuts... she's probably right... Dave Gardner, CCNA, CDLP Senior Specialist/Writer-Editor Pacific Consultants Group http://www.prepaidlegal.com/hub/davidgardner --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, <thehinge@m...> wrote: > > How many groups do you belong to total, Dave? And geez, > how do find the time to read messages if you get them in > your inbox daily? Though, I gotta admit, yahoo is very > generous to offer NOT to send email or just the weekly > digests to each member. Very nice feature.... > > Matt Smallwood > Visit our homepage at: http://www.mockturtlepress.com To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE TOLL-FREE 1-877-285-5434 WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 3168, Lynnwood, WA 98046-3168 SUBSCRIPTION RATES: 1 year (4 issues) for $15.95 (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) 2 years (8 issues) for $27.95 (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) For questions about the list, contact: AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.comTo POST a message via e-mail, send it to: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group "AMERICAN_ROAD" on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chris Posted March 3, 2006 Report Share Posted March 3, 2006 As I reach into my memory banks. Far past the cobwebs, dust bunnies and lost marbles. Was there someone here looking for background on old oil company advertisements? Or was it tires? http://www.paperboynews.com/links.asp?catagory=125 Have fun browsing this site! ..Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Cristy Posted March 3, 2006 Report Share Posted March 3, 2006 That part of Ohio is a great part of the National Road. There are still some original mile markers (I have pictures of every one in Ohio) S-bridges, original bridges and if you are observant, you can find parts of the original road. Norwich (the small town near the motel) was the site of the first recorded fatality on the National Road. Enjoy your trip. Cristy --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "Denny Gibson" <denny@...> wrote: > > Welcome to the group and thanks for verifying that Baker's is what it looks > like. You can't beat hearing from someone who has actually stayed at a > motel. > > I have visited the National Road Museum and it and the road itself are what > draws me to that area. And it is Baker's proximity to the museum that > attracted me to it. I've also stopped at the Glenn house twice but it was > closed both times. No fault of theirs - just bad timing on my part. > > --Denny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chris Posted March 3, 2006 Report Share Posted March 3, 2006 I'm so looking forward to this latest Pixar movie. A Coke 600 weekend for my Birthday? Coming up on the 20th anniversary of my inaugural trip to Charlotte. ... Chris ______________________________________________ Gentlemen, start the projector? Track looking to reel in world premiere of the animated movie 'Cars' ADAM BELL AND LAWRENCE TOPPMAN abell@charlotteobserver.comltoppman@charlotteobserver.com H.A. "Humpy" Wheeler is negotiating to bring "Cars" to Lowe's Motor Speedway -- as in the world premiere of Pixar's latest computer-animated film, "Cars." http://tinyurl.com/hfywf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest thehinge@magpage.com> Posted March 3, 2006 Report Share Posted March 3, 2006 Okay, I'm an idiot....didn't bother to look there...lol. Thanks, Pat. Matt Smallwood On Fri, 03 Mar 2006 01:23:50 -0000 "Pat B." <roadmaven@aol.com> wrote: > > > > > Matt, > They're in the American Road Yahoo Groups' Photos > section: > > http://finance.ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/A...otos/browse/772 > 0 > > Pat B. > > > > > > > > > > > > Visit our homepage at: http://www.mockturtlepress.com > > To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE TOLL-FREE > 1-877-285-5434 WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! > Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 3168, > Lynnwood, WA 98046-3168 > SUBSCRIPTION RATES: > 1 year (4 issues) for $15.95 > (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) > 2 years (8 issues) for $27.95 > (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) > > > For questions about the list, contact: > AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com > > To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: > AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.comTo POST a message > via e-mail, send it to: > AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > > > > > Business finance course > > > Business to business finance > > > Small business finance > > > > > Business finance consultant > > > Business finance schools > > > Business finance schools > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > > Visit your group "AMERICAN_ROAD" on the > web. > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email > to: AMERICAN_ROAD-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the > Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- Web mail provided by NuNet, Inc. The Premier National provider. http://www.nni.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Denny Gibson Posted March 4, 2006 Report Share Posted March 4, 2006 Sorry. We had already left Cave City when I saw you message. I did chat with Ivan and he did remember the Bremers. He also mentioned that recent visitors included the Discovery Channel and a Kentucky newspaper. We spent three nights in "two-two" (wigwam #2 in Wigwam Village #2) and enjoyed it in spite of the rain. My girlfriend Chris is planning on returning soon with her grand-kids. Pictures of the village and a few other spots around Cave City are up at http://www.dennygibson.com/bbash04.. -----Original Message----- From: sundayjohn66 [mailto:sundayjohn66@aol.com] Sent: Monday, April 26, 2004 12:56 AM To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Re: Made it to Wigwam Village #2 --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "Denny Gibson" <denny@d...> wrote: > Made it to the wigwams in Cave City in the rain on Thursday. Give Ivan my best! (He probably doesn't remember me, because it's been a long time since we stayed there, but I hope to remedy that one of these weekends if we can ever shake free to sneak down there.) Emily Priddy Belleville, IL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Scott Piotrowski Posted March 4, 2006 Report Share Posted March 4, 2006 FROM KEN BERNSTEIN, PRESIDENT LOS ANGELES CONSERVANCY The Conservancy needs your immediate help to ensure that Mayor Hahn's proposed 2004-5 budget does not completely devastate Los Angeles' historic preservation program. The budget proposes to eliminate all but one staff position from the Cultural Affairs Department's historic preservation program and transfer this single remaining position to the Planning Department, along with the five-member Cultural Heritage Commission. Presently, the preservation program has three full-time staff members, plus several staff members who provide part-time support on crucial preservation projects. The Cultural Heritage Commission oversees the designation and protection of over 750 Historic-Cultural Monuments (local landmarks). The Cultural Affairs Department's historic preservation division also administers the Mills Act program, a property tax incentive for owners of historic properties that is the only meaningful financial incentive for historic preservation at the local level. Over 180 historic property owners participate in the Mills Act program, which has helped to spur the adaptive reuse that is fueling housing and economic regeneration citywide. Under these draconian cuts, the Mills Act program simply could not continue, and the City's oversight of our most cherished historic sites would be lax, at best. In contrast, the City of New York's Landmarks Commission has a staff of over 50. Pasadena, a city about 1/20th the size of Los Angeles, has a staff of six for its preservation program. Los Angeles, a city of nearly 4,000,000 residents, may soon match the preservation staffing of the City of Vernon, a tiny industrial city of only 91 residents! While the City of Los Angeles is facing its most dire budget outlook in recent memory, it continues to pass up the opportunity to attract outside dollars to help pay for its preservation program. Los Angeles remains the only large city in California not to participate in the "Certified Local Government" program of the National Park Service and the State Office of Historic Preservation, making the city ineligible for State and Federal funds to support historic preservation planning. When he ran for office in 2001, Mayor Hahn promised in a Conservancy interview to support the single ordinance change necessary to have Los Angeles become a CLG: all that is needed is to pass a proposed amendment, introduced more than two years ago by Councilmember Cindy Miscikowski, requiring that at least two of the five Cultural Heritage Commissioners have a background in architecture, planning, history, or related fields a standard today's Cultural Heritage Commission already meets! Yet, the current administration has failed to move forward with this ordinance. What You Can Do...To Preserve Preservation in the City of Los Angeles The City Council's Budget and Finance Committee is about to begin hearings on the Mayor's budget proposals, and may recommend changes to the full City Council. It's critical that you immediately contact your Councilmember and the five members of the Budget and Finance Committee: Bernard Parks, Cindy Miscikowski, Eric Garcetti, Tony Cardenas, and Greig Smith. E-mail links to all Councilmembers are available from this page on our website: http://www.laconservancy.org/issues/councilmember_email.php4 Please copy the Conservancy (info@laconservancy.org) on your correspondence. The Council phone numbers now correspond to their Council District numbers, as follows: District 1: Ed Reyes, (213) 473-7001 District 2: Wendy Greuel, (213) 473-7002 District 3: Dennis Zine, (213) 473-7003 District 4: Tom LaBonge, (213) 473-7004 District 5: Jack Weiss, (213) 473-7005 District 6: Tony Cardenas, (213) 473-7006 District 7: Alex Padilla, (213) 473-7007 District 8: Bernard Parks, (213) 473-7008 District 9: Jan Perry, (213) 473-7009 District 10: Martin Ludlow, (213) 473-7010 District 11: Cindy Miscikowski, (213) 473-7011 District 12: Greig Smith, (213) 473-7012 District 13: Eric Garcetti, (213) 473-7013 District 14: Antonio Villaraigosa, (213) 473-7014 District 15: Janice Hahn, (213) 473-7015 Thank you for your help! Also, a petition to save the Cultural Heritage Commission has been created. This is URGENT! According to Ken Bernstein, the budget meeting may occur as soon as Tuesday next. Please, this is a big fire, we need to put it out ASAP! http://www.petitiononline.com/saveCH/petition.html Scott Piotrowski Director, 66 Productions www.66productions.com Moderator, Historic Roads Preservation www.groups.yahoo.com/historicroadspreservation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jim Michalek Posted March 4, 2006 Report Share Posted March 4, 2006 Just out of curiosity, was he related in any way to Robert Johnson? If any of you know of Robert Johnson, you may know this. --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, <rudkip@s...> wrote: > Info on the death and life of Johnnie Johnson > > http://www.stltoday.com/ > > Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pat B. Posted March 5, 2006 Report Share Posted March 5, 2006 Hi all... Jennifer's been busy updating our personal website with a bunch of old trips for your viewing pleasure. They can be found at: http://roadtripmemories.com/.. Scroll down to "Latest Updates" for the new entries. Cheers, Pat Bremer American Road Yahoo Group Moderator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Denny Gibson Posted March 5, 2006 Report Share Posted March 5, 2006 Excellent insight, Frank. Thanks for the explanation. It's a bit curious that that the error was not noted by Stewart but, of course, correcting the photo and leaving the text untouched was the easiest way out. But it seems even more curious that the Vales did not mention it. I was also a little surprised at the number of photos the Vales did not include. There are cases where they talk of spending considerable effort finding a site then another will be omitted without explanation. But, even with the omissions, the 1983 book is still a good read and a good companion to Stewart's work. Glad to hear that your own book is progressing. That's one I've been looking forward to. I hope to be near the front of the line when you do your first signing at the Westerville Barnes & Nobel. BTW, I hope you were able to eBay away your excess stock and weren't forced to tie up a shelf with all 15 copies of the same book. --Denny -----Original Message----- From: fbrusca [mailto:frank@kingsfield.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2006 12:49 AM To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Re: US-40 Book/Picture question In George Stewart's 1953 book, U.S. 40, he included 114 photographs (counting the multiple photos and the Names section in the back). About a third of those pictures were shot in the summer of 1949 and the remainder in the summer and autumn of 1950. Stewart shot all but one of the photos. The Blue Springs, MO photo was shot by his son Jack. Stewart accidentally submitted the wrong photo for the Hogback essay. The first printing of the book contains a view to the east of the Hogback. Immediately after publication, Stewart caught the error and a second printing was released. There is no way to differentiate between the two editions except to look at the Hogback photos. According to Stewart's royalty statements, Houghton Mifflin sold about 20,000 copies of the book. There is no indication how many were of the first printing and the second. My assessment is that there are more copies of the first printing than the second. I had to buy about 15 copies before I found one with for the second printing. As many of you may know, I am busy doing a proper update for the book. With all due respect to the Vales, their work is incomplete (covering only 72% of the original). My goal is to rephotograph all 114 scenes. I can't figure out why the Vales left out so many scenes. I've put in about ten years of research into the location of every photo. The Vales' book appears to be rather hastily assembled. If they were unable to pinpoint a location, it seems as if they just moved on. I've rephotographed 70+ scenes so far in B&W, chromes and 360-degree panoramas. I am also noting the GPS coordinates to assist whoever does the update 50 years from now. I am also considering adding as many as 35 unpublished Stewart photos to my project. (He shot almost 1,000 pictures on those two trips.) If all goes well, I hope to get it to press in the next year or so. BTW, Stewart made one error in the book that has troubled readers for years. In the Bit of the Old West essay, Stewart says the photo was taken west of St. Mary's. This is wrong. For years I scoured the Kansas countryside and was unable to find the location. When I reviewed Stewart's field notebooks, I saw that the photo was shot east of St. Mary's. For anyone trying to find that location, it is along Anthony Road on a gentle slope about a mile north of what is now U.S. 24. Cheers! Frank Brusca Westerville, Ohio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest R. Droz Posted March 5, 2006 Report Share Posted March 5, 2006 A 'why US 24' answer, not that anyone asked The US 24 area sign in Kansas along the US 40 project would have been okay along US 40N, but that designation had been replaced in 1935. US 40 was split N-S from Manhattan, KS to Limon, CO, and US 40S continued to Grand Junction. When US 24 was extended, it fully replaced the N leg, then replaced the S spur route. -- ____________________________________________________________________ Happy Motoring! _._._._.____~__ Robert V. Droz ( us98@earthlink.net ) [____________][___ U.S. Highways : From US 1 to (US 830) [________/____[_|__ http://www.us-highways.com/ ()() ()() () Route Logs - Standard Oil - Highway Makeover - Pics - Maps - Whatnot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pat B. Posted March 5, 2006 Report Share Posted March 5, 2006 --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "fbrusca" <frank@...> wrote: > If all goes well, I hope to get it to press in the next year or so. Frank, Does this mean the problem you encountered finding a publisher a few years ago has been resolved? I always wished Stewart would've given a little more attention to Indiana in that book, but I'm a little biased that way. :-) Pat B. Speedway, IN http://roadtripmemories.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Brusca, Frank Posted March 5, 2006 Report Share Posted March 5, 2006 I think the photo error was one of those oops moments for Stewart. He corrected it and moved on. Of the Vales' omissions, here are some likely rationale for their coverage (and lack thereof): New Castle - The original photo was shot from a ferry boat. Since the ferry was discontinued in 1951, I am hiring a charter boat to take me mid river. Bush River - I'm perplexed over this omission. The location is very easy to find. Ridge & Valley - ditto. Narrows - ditto. Coal Mine - The site is easy to find, however the mountain is not heavily forested. They probably elected not to shoot this scene since a contemporary photo is difficult to achieve. I've done some winter photography at a nearby location. Mileposts - These three sites are very easy to find. All three signs are now gone, though, and that may have been the reason the Vales didn't try to replicate the scenes. The cast iron milepost is now in a museum. The milestone had been on a highway supervisor's front yard for about 30 years and then it disappeared after his death. The wooden sign (a major safety hazard by today's standards) has been replaced by a simple sign on the right shoulder. The farm buildings in the last photo are still standing. Roadside Vendor - This was very hard to pinpoint and that may have been one reason the Vales opted out on this scene. I was able to pinpoint the scene only when I viewed the original negative through a loupe. The street sign in the background is clear as can be in the neg. Road Making - Another curious omission. Granted the scene has changed considerably since 1950, by a little bit of leg work revealed the location to me. Double Highway - The Vales indicated they did not want to climb the rickety old water tower at this scene. That's understandable. Today, however, a communications tower stands on that site. I have made arrangements to get a photo from the tower - perhaps this summer. Sign Post - This is another curious omission. The scene has changed dramatically and is important for a then-and-now comparison. A major inner city highway now runs to the right of the scene - where the building with the Country Club Beer ad formerly stood. A Bit of the Old West - Stewart's location error has thrown all of us off. I spent about 20 afternoons in St. Mary's and was unable to locate it. Only when I reread Stewart's notes was I able to pinpoint the location. Two Species - The scene hasn't changed much. My guess is that the Vales blinked and drove right by it. Target of Opportunity - This section is on an abandoned alignment. My guess is that they were on the new road and drove right by it. Great Basin - This is an incredibly dangerous photo to shoot. I was nearly killed shooting this scene. Forty Mile Desert - Obviously, the Vales chose not to include the aerials. Probably for budgetary reasons. Highway and River - ditto. Forest Primeval - This scene is very tough to find, but a few days of leg work, and some assistance from the Forest Service, enabled me to find it. Names Section - I still don't understand why these photos weren't attempted by the Vales. There are some good scenes - especially in the original photos! In the Vales' defense, I realize that they had a very short schedule and a very limited budget. I have spent many years making trips, writing letters, sending e-mails and making phone calls to ensure accuracy and complete coverage. So far, I've had to pay for everything myself (the Vales did have a small grant). I owe a great deal to the Vales for their work. Thanks to them, a few of the more problematic scenes were very easy to locate. Frank Brusca Westerville, Ohio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Brusca, Frank Posted March 5, 2006 Report Share Posted March 5, 2006 Publisher problems will never be solved. :-) At this moment I am without publisher. I am dedicating my time towards field work and writing. As the manuscript nears completion, I think publishers will be more receptive. Seeing the completed work will give them a better idea of what I'm doing. Another thing in my favor is the flood of then-and-now photography books on the market. Frank Brusca Westerville, Ohio -----Original Message----- From: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com [mailto:AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Pat B. Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2006 8:33 AM To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Re: US-40 Book/Picture question --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "fbrusca" <frank@...> wrote: > If all goes well, I hope to get it to press in the next year or so. Frank, Does this mean the problem you encountered finding a publisher a few years ago has been resolved? I always wished Stewart would've given a little more attention to Indiana in that book, but I'm a little biased that way. :-) Pat B. Speedway, IN http://roadtripmemories.com Visit our homepage at: http://www.mockturtlepress.com To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE TOLL-FREE 1-877-285-5434 WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 46519, Mt. Clemens, MI 48046 SUBSCRIPTION RATES: 1 year (4 issues) for $16.95 (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) 2 years (8 issues) for $29.95 (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) For questions about the list, contact: AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.comTo POST a message via e-mail, send it to: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Brusca, Frank Posted March 5, 2006 Report Share Posted March 5, 2006 Between Topeka and Junction City, U.S. 40 ran north of the Kansas River on what is now the U.S. 24 alignment. According to my old road maps, the alignment moved south of the river in the mid-1950s. Frank Brusca Westerville, Ohio -----Original Message----- From: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com [mailto:AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of R. Droz Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2006 8:14 AM To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Re: US-40 Book/Picture question A 'why US 24' answer, not that anyone asked The US 24 area sign in Kansas along the US 40 project would have been okay along US 40N, but that designation had been replaced in 1935. US 40 was split N-S from Manhattan, KS to Limon, CO, and US 40S continued to Grand Junction. When US 24 was extended, it fully replaced the N leg, then replaced the S spur route. -- ____________________________________________________________________ Happy Motoring! _._._._.____~__ Robert V. Droz ( us98@earthlink.net ) [____________][___ U.S. Highways : From US 1 to (US 830) [________/____[_|__ http://www.us-highways.com/ ()() ()() () Route Logs - Standard Oil - Highway Makeover - Pics - Maps - Whatnot Visit our homepage at: http://www.mockturtlepress.com To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE TOLL-FREE 1-877-285-5434 WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 46519, Mt. Clemens, MI 48046 SUBSCRIPTION RATES: 1 year (4 issues) for $16.95 (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) 2 years (8 issues) for $29.95 (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) For questions about the list, contact: AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.comTo POST a message via e-mail, send it to: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Alex Burr Posted March 5, 2006 Report Share Posted March 5, 2006 THANK YOU FRANK!!!!!!!! Now we know we're not crazy or hallucinating!!!!!!! I must have a 1st edition, since the Hog Back photo in my book does NOT match the photo shown in the Vail book on page 106!!!!!! LOL Happy Traveling - from the research you're doing I'd say you're planning on another book on 40 - should plan it to come out around 2013, which would be the 60th anniversary of the Stewart book. Hudsonly, Alex B --- fbrusca <frank@kingsfield.com> wrote: > In George Stewart's 1953 book, U.S. 40, he included > 114 photographs > (counting the multiple photos and the Names section > in the back). > About a third of those pictures were shot in the > summer of 1949 and > the remainder in the summer and autumn of 1950. > Stewart shot all > but one of the photos. The Blue Springs, MO photo > was shot by his > son Jack. > > Stewart accidentally submitted the wrong photo for > the Hogback > essay. The first printing of the book contains a > view to the east > of the Hogback. Immediately after publication, > Stewart caught the > error and a second printing was released. There is > no way to > differentiate between the two editions except to > look at the Hogback > photos. > > According to Stewart's royalty statements, Houghton > Mifflin sold > about 20,000 copies of the book. There is no > indication how many > were of the first printing and the second. My > assessment is that > there are more copies of the first printing than the > second. I had > to buy about 15 copies before I found one with for > the second > printing. > > As many of you may know, I am busy doing a proper > update for the > book. With all due respect to the Vales, their work > is incomplete > (covering only 72% of the original). My goal is to > rephotograph all > 114 scenes. I can't figure out why the Vales left > out so many > scenes. I've put in about ten years of research > into the location > of every photo. The Vales' book appears to be > rather hastily > assembled. If they were unable to pinpoint a > location, it seems as > if they just moved on. > > I've rephotographed 70+ scenes so far in B&W, > chromes and 360-degree > panoramas. I am also noting the GPS coordinates to > assist whoever > does the update 50 years from now. > > I am also considering adding as many as 35 > unpublished Stewart > photos to my project. (He shot almost 1,000 > pictures on those two > trips.) > > If all goes well, I hope to get it to press in the > next year or so. > > BTW, Stewart made one error in the book that has > troubled readers > for years. In the Bit of the Old West essay, > Stewart says the photo > was taken west of St. Mary's. This is wrong. For > years I scoured > the Kansas countryside and was unable to find the > location. When I > reviewed Stewart's field notebooks, I saw that the > photo was shot > east of St. Mary's. For anyone trying to find that > location, it is > along Anthony Road on a gentle slope about a mile > north of what is > now U.S. 24. > > Cheers! > > Frank Brusca > Westerville, Ohio > > > > A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest laurelrk66@aol.com Posted March 5, 2006 Report Share Posted March 5, 2006 In a message dated 5/27/2004 1:55:24 PM Central Daylight Time, denny@dennygibson.com writes: > I'd > kind of like to save those for end-to-end runs some day plus I've been on > most of the PA bits of the National & US 22. Any thoughts? > Denny, Just my 2-cents here. Here's what I'd do, if I had a few days to kill in Pennsylvania. I'd head north from State College to Wellsboro, which is on Route 6, then follow Route 6 west across the top of PA until it puts you back in Ohio. Route 6 is absolutely one of my favorite "slow lane" drives. It's just beautiful, and there are charming towns, lots of great mom 'n pop motels and diners, and some pretty spectacular scenery, too. Check it out at www.paroute6.com. Laurel Kane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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