Guest Cristy Posted June 8, 2006 Report Share Posted June 8, 2006 I forgot the link to the Lobster Shack. There are directions too. Have fun whereever you go. http://www.lobstershack-twolights.com/index.htm --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, Larry Kinsey <alf@...> wrote: > > Charlene and I are planning a trip to New England this fall. We will be > leaving Sept 29th and flying into Hartford, CT. We will pick up a car and > probably spend the night in that area. From there we will be going into > Vermont, New Hampshire, and then into Maine. We leave Hartford on Oct 16th. > I am looking for some suggestions on places to stay. Do you have any > recommendations? Also, are there any things that we should perhaps see > while there? We are in the planning stages at the present time. > > Larry > Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Vickey Posted June 8, 2006 Report Share Posted June 8, 2006 --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Stidham" <actionsub@g...> wrote: > I had an uncle that lived a few miles out of Doniphan for a few years. Given the choice, I'd take the Doniphan/Poplar Bluff scenery over Branson/Springfield. > > > -- > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed What was your uncles name? I might know of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rudkip@sbcglobal.net> Posted June 8, 2006 Report Share Posted June 8, 2006 Big Spring is quite a site, and the Current River is gorgeous (Van Buren saved the old truss bridge across the river, which is now a walking bridge)...also if you go west on US 60 from Van Buren to SR 19, you can go north and see a couple of the other "big" springs that Missouri has to offer, Alley Spring by Eminence (about 5 miles W of Eminence on SR 106) and Round Spring off SR 19 about 13 miles north of Eminence--19 is a beautiful drive in and of itself...it is a little harder to find, but if you go South on SR19 from the intersection with US 60 there is Greer Spring on the Eleven Point River...it is a walk in walk out place but it is worth the walk! Tsingtao, Kip ----- Original Message ----- From: "Vickey" <ANGELVICKEY1@AOL.COM> To: <AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Monday, July 18, 2005 6:17 AM Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] newby too > Hello everyone, > I just joined this group a couple days ago and so happy I did. In the > past 48 hours there has been much talk about my native homeland. I > was born and raised in the Doniphan(Mo.) area. About 40 miles west of > Poplar Bluff. You all are right about the narrow, curvy roads in that > area but they are a wonderful drive if you have time and want to > sight see your way to Branson or Springfield. If you go near Van > Bureun or Big Springs, Please take the time to stop in and see Big > Springs, its just that, a BIG Spring. and much worth the stop. > When I grew up and got out of school (Doniphan High) I moved to St. > Louis, as do many of the young ones do. There isnt much to make a > living in the Doniphan area. In St. Louis I lived all around the > Hwy66. > July 2 years ago I moved from the Troy, Mo. area (which is on old Hwy > 66. > I have semi retired in the Great Smokey Mts. of TN. I live in > Sevierville, Tn. I would like to hear from the person living in > Clarksville that is also a native Missourian. > I lost my husband to cancer in 2002 and we didn't get to travel the > US at retirement as we had planned to do. So I am going to sit here > and see it through your eyes. Hope you don't mind my tagging along > with ya. > > Have a wonderful day. > Vickey In Tn. > > > > > > > Visit our homepage at: http://www.mockturtlepress.com > > To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE TOLL-FREE 1-877-285-5434 WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! > Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 3168, Lynnwood, WA 98046-3168 > SUBSCRIPTION RATES: > 1 year (4 issues) for $15.95 > (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) > 2 years (8 issues) for $27.95 > (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) > > > For questions about the list, contact: AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com > > To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.comTo POST a message via e-mail, send it to: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest thehinge@magpage.com> Posted June 8, 2006 Report Share Posted June 8, 2006 Delaware has done so to an extent. Some US highways are fair game for small town officers, but the state courts have taken the right away from the town of Newport to do so on one state highway that goes over the town. It makes sense really, speeding doesn't affect that town if it's an overpass. Now, a surface four lane street.....another story. Matt Smallwood On Thu, 06 Jul 2006 23:13:45 -0000 "rwarn17588" <rwarn17588@yahoo.com> wrote: > In Illinois, the law is constructed so that it's not > cost-effective > for municipalities to have speed traps. > > In Oklahoma, not so much. A few municipalities abuse > their ability to > writing speeding tickets, and the state currently is > cracking down on > them. > > So ... it depends on the state. > > Ron Warnick > Tulsa, OK > www.route66news.org > > --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "Dave Reese" > <reesed@...> wrote: > > > > No matter how much the police say there are not ticket > quotas, this > story > > shows that the truth may be different. > > > http://www.charleston.net/stories/?newsID=...ction=localnews.. > > Dave Reese > > Allentown PA > > Home of Brooklands Speedway and Cherrington Park > > http://www.geocities.com/brooklandsspeedway > > http://www.summerharmony.com > > > > Today in Auto History: > > 7.6.1914 > > Dodge Brothers, Inc. grants its first retail franchise > to J. D. Picksley > > Cheek St. of Nashville, TN > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- Web mail provided by NuNet, Inc. The Premier National provider. http://www.nni.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mark Alvin Forcadas Posted June 8, 2006 Report Share Posted June 8, 2006 hi mike. i dont know what say. im mark forcadas. from philippines. plan to go america someday.im also dissatistifed with my carrer here, so i plan to continue my study in america but their is a lot of contrians, financially unstable and new apprentise in the world of indepandence that's one of my million hendrances in my goal in life. Mike Stidham <actionsub@gmail.com> wrote:Fred Stidham. Lived outside of town in a development called Ran-Cha-Ra for a few years in the 70's after he retired. He got dissatisfied with the availability of rural health care after awhile and hightailed it back to the Chicago suburbs. He, my dad, and their brothers were born in Alabama; but when they were young, their widowed father married a woman from the bootheel area and they moved up around Hayti and Kennett. ----- Original Message ----- From: Vickey To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, July 18, 2005 7:08 PM Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Re: newby too --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Stidham" <actionsub@g...> wrote: > I had an uncle that lived a few miles out of Doniphan for a few years. Given the choice, I'd take the Doniphan/Poplar Bluff scenery over Branson/Springfield. > > > -- > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed What was your uncles name? I might know of him. Visit our homepage at: http://www.mockturtlepress.com To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE TOLL-FREE 1-877-285-5434 WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 3168, Lynnwood, WA 98046-3168 SUBSCRIPTION RATES: 1 year (4 issues) for $15.95 (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) 2 years (8 issues) for $27.95 (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) For questions about the list, contact: AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.comTo POST a message via e-mail, send it to: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com SPONSORED LINKS Business finance course Business to business finance Small business finance Business finance consultant Business finance schools Business finance schools ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group "AMERICAN_ROAD" on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Visit our homepage at: http://www.mockturtlepress.com To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE TOLL-FREE 1-877-285-5434 WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 3168, Lynnwood, WA 98046-3168 SUBSCRIPTION RATES: 1 year (4 issues) for $15.95 (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) 2 years (8 issues) for $27.95 (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) For questions about the list, contact: AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.comTo POST a message via e-mail, send it to: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "AMERICAN_ROAD" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- --------------------------------- Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mike Stidham Posted June 8, 2006 Report Share Posted June 8, 2006 Fred Stidham. Lived outside of town in a development called Ran-Cha-Ra for a few years in the 70's after he retired. He got dissatisfied with the availability of rural health care after awhile and hightailed it back to the Chicago suburbs. He, my dad, and their brothers were born in Alabama; but when they were young, their widowed father married a woman from the bootheel area and they moved up around Hayti and Kennett. ----- Original Message ----- From: Vickey To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, July 18, 2005 7:08 PM Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Re: newby too --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Stidham" <actionsub@g...> wrote: > I had an uncle that lived a few miles out of Doniphan for a few years. Given the choice, I'd take the Doniphan/Poplar Bluff scenery over Branson/Springfield. > > > -- > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed What was your uncles name? I might know of him. Visit our homepage at: http://www.mockturtlepress.com To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE TOLL-FREE 1-877-285-5434 WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 3168, Lynnwood, WA 98046-3168 SUBSCRIPTION RATES: 1 year (4 issues) for $15.95 (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) 2 years (8 issues) for $27.95 (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) For questions about the list, contact: AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.comTo POST a message via e-mail, send it to: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com SPONSORED LINKS Business finance course Business to business finance Small business finance Business finance consultant Business finance schools Business finance schools ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group "AMERICAN_ROAD" on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chuck Posted June 8, 2006 Report Share Posted June 8, 2006 --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "msclp2001" <mary@m...> wrote: > I stumbled across a great photographers site last night, and thought some folks here might > be interested in it. He has some photos of Holyland on it, along with lots of other great > modern ruins. > > http://www.oboylephoto.com/ruins/index.htm > Thanks Mary, It's great to read the posts here and especially like the links to the types of things on the old roads. I hope on my wife's and I's 25th anniversary when we travel US 61 from New Orleans to Thunder Bay Canada we can capture these types of photos. Charles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dennis Karlstad Posted June 8, 2006 Report Share Posted June 8, 2006 Thanks Pat, Didn't really want to know that so was happy to see the chart didn't cover my Winnebago at 8mpg. Dennis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest egyptianzipper@aol.com Posted June 9, 2006 Report Share Posted June 9, 2006 In a message dated 8/3/06 8:38:33 AM Eastern Daylight Time, thehinge@magpage.com writes: So, this pic was taken in Shenandoah NP, PJ? I would have guessed there or Smoky Mtns. NP. ================================================================= Speaking of Shenandoah National Park, has anyone been to Rockfish Gap lately? That's where Skyline Drive, the Blue Ridge Parkway, US 250 and I-64 all meet. At one tiime it was a really busy place: lots of tourists going to the Drive or the Parkway, or from one to the other. I took 250 up from Charlottesville yesterday and found an eerie landscape of abandoned buildings. The only one in use seemed to be the tourist information place. One of the hotels may still be in business; I really couldn't tell. One of the buildings had a telltale orange roof. I remember having lunch at that HoJo in 1974. I took the Parkway 27 miles south to Virginia 56. I was expecting it to be very busy; it was a Saturday in August after all. I figured I'd get stuck behind at least one RV doing 10mph. But there was hardly anyone up there. I can't figure out how such a major crossroads as Rockfish Gap turned into a ghost town. I also read that the restaurant at Panorama (Skyline Drive and US 211) had reopened. Anyone know anything about that? Tom Hoffman Pearisburg VA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Lulupic66@aol.com Posted June 9, 2006 Report Share Posted June 9, 2006 HI all, I was turned on to this show by another friend. I caught it last night and it was VERY GOOD The synopsis is "Alton Brown heads west from South Carolina coast as he sets off on his cross country motorbike trip in search of regional foods across the country." It is also interspersed with little bits of wisdom such as "A good traveler has no fixed plans and is not intent on arriving" Lao Tzu. If you get a chance to catch it do so, you won't be disappointed Lulu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Larry Kinsey Posted June 9, 2006 Report Share Posted June 9, 2006 Will be leaving the 7th of Oct. for Burlington, Wisconsin to visit my brother and his family for a few days. Then its off to explore Wisconsin and the upper Michigan. I plan on doing so hiking on the park trails as well as stopping by the House on the Rock, Baraboo, the Dells. Then over to Manitowoc, Green Bay, and points along the lakes. Any other suggestions would be appreciated. Having lived for a while in New Richmond, I may go over to the Northwestern part of the state. I am still in the planning stages. Larry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest egyptianzipper@aol.com Posted June 9, 2006 Report Share Posted June 9, 2006 In a message dated 9/18/05 12:46:30 PM Eastern Daylight Time, yttrailman@yellowstonetrail.org writes: Explore the township roads from one to six miles east and south of the Center to enjoy the loons, the authentic north woods, and the quiet. Colors should be still be great. ==================================================================== You mentioned the UP. Don't miss the Pictured Rocks National Lakeshore. My trip was a while ago (1985). I don't know what's changed. I drove a gravel road for 50 miles from Grand Marais to Munising. Munisiing is a neat little town. There are little waterfalls that pop up on back streets. I skipped the boat tour of the Pictured Rocks because it was a foggy day.Don't know whether it'll still be running in October or not. The North Country National Scenic Trail crosses the UP parallel to US 2, running to the north of it. Speaking of Route 2, don't miss the 50 or so miles where it runs right along Lake Michigan west of St. Ignace. Tom Hoffman Pearisburg VA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest John Wm. Ridge Posted June 9, 2006 Report Share Posted June 9, 2006 Try the Ice Age National Scientific Reserve Interpretation Center on County M about eight miles east of New Auburn. New Auburn is on US 53 north of Eau Claire. Explore the township roads from one to six miles east and south of the Center to enjoy the loons, the authentic north woods, and the quiet. Colors should be still be great. JWR At 9/18/2005, you wrote: >Will be leaving the 7th of Oct. for Burlington, Wisconsin to visit my >brother and his family for a few days. Then its off to explore Wisconsin >and the upper Michigan. I plan on doing so hiking on the park trails as >well as stopping by the House on the Rock, Baraboo, the Dells. Then over >to Manitowoc, Green Bay, and points along the lakes. Any other suggestions >would be appreciated. Having lived for a while in New Richmond, I may go >over to the Northwestern part of the state. I am still in the planning >stages. > >Larry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ken Posted June 9, 2006 Report Share Posted June 9, 2006 Hi Larry, Here's just a couple of web sites for some places that you just might like to see! www.almawisconsin.com www.genoawi.com www.explorelacrosse.com www.explorewisconsin.com http://discoverwisconsin.com or discoverwisconsin.com Just a little info to take into consideration if you happen to go this way, Just to the north of Dodgeville Wi. on Hwy 23 (south of the House on the Rock) there is a hotel/restaurant If I remember correctly it's called Don Q Inn. There is a large cargo plane that sits in the front yard area. This aircraft was used in a comercial many years ago for (Lincoln Mercury) With Farah Fawset, Her autograph is on the port side (left) of the craft. They do let people tour the inside of this aircraft. It's neat to see, They actually landed this bird on site! We were told that it was more of a crash landing attempt than an intended landing! Near Pairie Du Chien Wi. there is a state park called Wyalusing S.P. this has a very nice scenic overlook of the valley area where the Wisconsin & Mississippi rivers meet. There is alot to see in the Prarie Du Chein area as far as history & scenic beauty! From there, Take Hwy 35 (Great River Road) north towards La Crosse Wi. This is a very nice drive along the mighty Mississippi River but does get busy at times. At Genoa Wi. there is a lock & dam # 8, Not sure if this is open to the public anymore after 9/11. We use to watch the Barges go through the locks at the visitor center platform & visit with the Lock operators, They were a nice bunch of folks to talk & visit with when they had the time. We even chatted with the Barge crews as they worked several feet away. About a mile north of Genoa on Hwy 35, There is an overlook picnic area (look for signs), This is a very awesome overlook. When you park at the parking area on top of the bluff area, There is a small blacktop walkway that will take you up to the highest point here, The walkway begins across from the bathrooms. Next would be Grandad Bluff on the east side of La Crosse near the golf course. This overlooks the La crosse area. Next would be Alma Wi. Lock & Dam # 4 is located here. Once again I'm not sure about what the public status is for here. If you're into watching trains, There is a neat walk bridge that goes over the trackage that leads to the L.D.. You'd be about 8 feet above the trains. What a rush when they go by!!! The Hotel Resaurant in Alma has very good food, The people of the area are kind & tend to wave alot,.........It's a very people friendly area as though you were part of the family! Just to the east of Alma there is a park called Buena Vista Park located on top of the bluff. This is a very peacful place that overlooks the Missississipi River, Alma, Lock& Dam, Power Plant (to the south) etc. To the east of Alma the back roads are scenic that wind & curve through the area, The non highway back roads are more fun to explore on. Especialy on a Motorcycle! Well,................These are "just a few" of the thousands of neat places to visit! I think my wife & I are a little over due for a trip along here ourselves, We use to take our neices & nephews on this trek several times a year just to get away from it all! Since we had room we thought we'd bring a few of the kids along to enjoy the trip. It's neat to see the kids's faces when they each got to see a Bald Eagle(s) in person in the wild for the first time! Ken, Whitewater Wisconsin Enjoy! ----- Original Message ----- From: Larry Kinsey To: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2005 7:47 AM Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Upcoming trip to Wisconsin Will be leaving the 7th of Oct. for Burlington, Wisconsin to visit my brother and his family for a few days. Then its off to explore Wisconsin and the upper Michigan. I plan on doing so hiking on the park trails as well as stopping by the House on the Rock, Baraboo, the Dells. Then over to Manitowoc, Green Bay, and points along the lakes. Any other suggestions would be appreciated. Having lived for a while in New Richmond, I may go over to the Northwestern part of the state. I am still in the planning stages. Larry Visit our homepage at: http://www.mockturtlepress.com To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE TOLL-FREE 1-877-285-5434 WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 3168, Lynnwood, WA 98046-3168 SUBSCRIPTION RATES: 1 year (4 issues) for $15.95 (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) 2 years (8 issues) for $27.95 (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) For questions about the list, contact: AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.comTo POST a message via e-mail, send it to: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group "AMERICAN_ROAD" on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rudkip@sbcglobal.net> Posted June 10, 2006 Report Share Posted June 10, 2006 If you head to Indianhead Country, cruisin US 53 up north has all sorts of great stuff: --Eau Claire: Woo's Chinese Pagoda: the coolest Chinese Roadhouse in America--especially at night with the neon blazing. --Tilden, WI: located exactly halfway between the equator and the North Pole, cute little town. --Spooner WI, an awesome little northwoods villa. --Hayward, WI, home of the Great Muskie at the Fishing Hall Of Fame... If you get up there, there is a little bar 13 miles N of Spooner on Highway K called the Mac Lake Tavern...it is owned by my sister in law, Kelly Grimes...stop in and tell her Kip sent you; she will make you feel right at home... Have fun in the northwoods! Tsingtao, Kip ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Kinsey" <alf@mia.net> To: <AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2005 7:47 AM Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Upcoming trip to Wisconsin > Will be leaving the 7th of Oct. for Burlington, Wisconsin to visit my > brother and his family for a few days. Then its off to explore Wisconsin > and the upper Michigan. I plan on doing so hiking on the park trails as > well as stopping by the House on the Rock, Baraboo, the Dells. Then over > to Manitowoc, Green Bay, and points along the lakes. Any other suggestions > would be appreciated. Having lived for a while in New Richmond, I may go > over to the Northwestern part of the state. I am still in the planning stages. > > Larry > > > > > Visit our homepage at: http://www.mockturtlepress.com > > To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE TOLL-FREE 1-877-285-5434 WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! > Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 3168, Lynnwood, WA 98046-3168 > SUBSCRIPTION RATES: > 1 year (4 issues) for $15.95 > (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) > 2 years (8 issues) for $27.95 > (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) > > > For questions about the list, contact: AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com > > To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.comTo POST a message via e-mail, send it to: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pat B. Posted June 10, 2006 Report Share Posted June 10, 2006 --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, egyptianzipper@a... wrote: > Speaking of Route 2, don't miss the 50 or so miles > where it runs right along Lake Michigan west of St. Ignace. > > Tom Hoffman > Pearisburg VA Agreed, Tom. We were just on US 2 last weekend. We spent Saturday night in Iron Mountain, MI and took 2 over to Mackinaw City. That stretch along Lake Michigan is one of the best drives in the midwest. US 2 runs through some nice little towns to explore (Escanaba, Manistique). Larry, if you make it over to the St. Ignace/Mackinaw City region (highly recommended if you've never crossed the 4 1/2 mile Mackinac Bridge: http://roadtripmemories.com/trips/mackinaw2003.htm) be sure to make that an overnight stop. Mackinaw City is a great little tourist place, not to mention what's on Mackinac Island. Also, the regional treat up there are these things called "pasties". Just about every little cafe along US 2 in the UP offers them. Our favorite so far is the Mackinaw Pastie & Cookie Company: http://www.mackinawpastie.com/ . A couple of other good restaurants in Mack City are Cunningham's and The Embers (the tables & chairs in there look like something right out of the restaurant of a Holiday Inn, circa 1972). If you're into fudge, Mackinaw is the capital. We've sampled just about everyone & Joann's Fudge ( http://www.joannsfudge.com/) is tops. As for motels up there, this is a good time of the year to get deals. We stayed at the Northwinds Motel last Sunday in Mackinaw City. It was right on Lake Huron with a fantastic view of the bridge: http://www.mackinawcitymotels.com/pages/3/index.htm . Reasonably priced at $39.95 for two. Next time we get up there in a year or two, we'll probably do a little more exploring in St. Ignace and on Mackinac Island. I think Jennifer's going to be working on last weekend's "Loop around Lake Michigan" trip for our website, so I'll be sure to post a note when it's ready. Regards, Pat Bremer American Road Yahoo Group Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Brian Kreimendahl Posted June 10, 2006 Report Share Posted June 10, 2006 http://www.66postcards.com/images/nmm269.jpg http://www2.sjsu.edu/faculty/wooda/newmexicoelvado2.jpeg http://www2.sjsu.edu/faculty/wooda/newmexicoelvado.jpeg URL: http://www.abqjournal.com/news/metro/399754metro10-18-05.htm Tuesday, October 18, 2005 Chavez Fights To Save Motel By Jim Ludwick and Olivier Uyttebrouck Albuquerque Journal Staff Writers Mayor Martin Chavez said Monday he will oppose a zoning change that could lead to demolition of El Vado Motel, which he said is historic and should be preserved. The motel, at Central and New York near the BioPark, is on the National Register of Historic Buildings and is "too important to be demolished." Richard L. Gonzales, who is buying El Vado, wants to develop 10 townhomes on the site, according to documents filed with the city. He is asking the city to rezone the property from commercial zoning to "RT" zoning, which allows townhouses. The mayor said, "I have as a private citizen written to each member of the Environmental Planning Commission, asking them to refrain from any action that would allow the present owners to demolish El Vado." He said his administration would work with the owner to find a way to preserve the structure, although he said it doesn't matter if it is used for something other than a motel. The motel's future has drawn wide interest from Route 66 enthusiasts- including a man from Germany who sent an e-mail to the Journal saying his recent trip along the "good old Mother Road" was a "boy's dream becoming true." Gonzales said he could proceed with townhomes under existing zoning if he applies for a conditional-use permit, but a zoning change seemed like a better approach. "I didn't buy it just to look at it," he said. "I'm going to proceed." "What I'm proposing is a very good and healthy use," he said. "To rehab it would be very expensive and very difficult." His proposal states that townhouses would be more beneficial to the neighborhood than a 1936 motel, which "has attracted a transient population." The neighborhood has high-density residential developments and family entertainment destinations such as the Albuquerque Biopark, Tingley Beach and the Albuquerque zoo, the proposal states. "These family-oriented destinations serve Albuquerque residents, and are better served by being located near more permanent residential uses than commercial uses that serve a transient population," it states. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Scott Piotrowski Posted June 10, 2006 Report Share Posted June 10, 2006 I've recently posted a message on my website, www.66productions.com, asking for a boycott of Walgreens. They have managed to tear down the Flying Saucer gas station in Ashtabula, OH, in order to expand yet again. I'm interested, however, in accumulating as lengthy of a list as possible of the historically significant structures that they have "replaced" with a Walgreens. If you know of any, please email me (you can do it through my website) with the name of the business, the city and state it was in, the type of business, and which highway (US, state, or county, if applicable) that it was on. Your help on this is greatly appreciate, and please spread the word. Scott Piotrowski Director, 66 Productions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jim Ross Posted June 10, 2006 Report Share Posted June 10, 2006 Hi Everybody, I have been following the El Vado Motel crisis with interest. Of course I wrote my own letter, but after reading the latest article in the Albuq. Journal, I thought it time to throw a few realities on the table. Even if the mayor's added influence stops the re-zoning, this does nothing to protect the motel if it is true that the developer already owns it. This is key. He states that he plans to proceed using other options regardless of the outcome to his request. As the owner, he can legally do as he wishes with the building, to include turning it into a parking lot. He has already stated that it is an "eyesore" and attracts "transients" and that it would be too expensive to rehab. I predict the city will have great difficulty in legally denying a demolition permit. Even if they do, he can still take down the sign, board up the windows, paint it chartreuse, cover it with a tarp, or employ whatever other means he chooses to defeat the city's (and our) objective. Sorry, Emily, but the asbestos tactic will be nothing more than a minor annoyance to a man of his arrogance and apparent financial resources, and the last thing we want to do is appear like radicals willing to lie or break the law to get our way. Our efforts must remain legal. So far we have kept all the eggs in one basket. It may be time to shift focus to Gonzales himself and explore ways to incorporate the sign and some of the motel as part of the overall development, as was done successfully in Tulsa with the old public market. Obviously this is not our preferred outcome, but if Gonzales in fact already owns the El Vado, it could be our only hope. It is ludicrous to think he will keep it as an operating motel. Regards, Jim R. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Brian Butko Posted June 10, 2006 Report Share Posted June 10, 2006 I used a photo of Ashtabula?s flying saucer station on the cover of my new book, Roadside Giants, and so researched it a bit. The station was disassembled and moved to the Crawford Auto Museum in 1999. Unfortunately, the outcome is no different: the museum eventually deemed the wood and metal unusable and discarded it all with the thought that blueprints could reconstruct it if ever needed. Brian www.brianbutko.com From: "Scott Piotrowski" <rt66prods@yahoo.com> Reply-To: <AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com> Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 15:03:27 -0000 To: <AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com> Subject: Spam:[AMERICAN_ROAD] Walgreens I've recently posted a message on my website, www.66productions.com, asking for a boycott of Walgreens. They have managed to tear down the Flying Saucer gas station in Ashtabula, OH, in order to expand yet again. I'm interested, however, in accumulating as lengthy of a list as possible of the historically significant structures that they have "replaced" with a Walgreens. If you know of any, please email me (you can do it through my website) with the name of the business, the city and state it was in, the type of business, and which highway (US, state, or county, if applicable) that it was on. Your help on this is greatly appreciate, and please spread the word. Scott Piotrowski Director, 66 Productions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rwarn17588 Posted June 10, 2006 Report Share Posted June 10, 2006 I should add, Jim, that it sounds like Albuquerque's mayor is willing to have the city *buy* El Vado from the current owner, like the city has done with other historic properties along Route 66. And, of course, the city also can use eminent domain, citing the "greater public good." Eminent domain has been a subject of cussing and discussing in recent months. But as much as eminent domain can take away, it can also giveth to the Mother Road. And I also received an e-mail from a city official, of which he made no bones about the fact it would be difficult to get a demolition permit, especially given the factors in El Vado's case. I agree that it's far too early to celebrate yet. But it seems like the tide of public sentiment and politics are in our favor. I've got a bunch of updates on my site about this matter. Ron Warnick Tulsa, OK www.route66news.org --- In AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com, "Jim Ross" <pathfinder66@e...> wrote: > > Hi Everybody, > > I have been following the El Vado Motel crisis with interest. Of course I wrote my own letter, but after reading the latest article in the Albuq. Journal, I thought it time to throw a few realities on the table. > > Even if the mayor's added influence stops the re-zoning, this does nothing to protect the motel if it is true that the developer already owns it. This is key. He states that he plans to proceed using other options regardless of the outcome to his request. > > As the owner, he can legally do as he wishes with the building, to include turning it into a parking lot. He has already stated that it is an "eyesore" and attracts "transients" and that it would be too expensive to rehab. I predict the city will have great difficulty in legally denying a demolition permit. Even if they do, he can still take down the sign, board up the windows, paint it chartreuse, cover it with a tarp, or employ whatever other means he chooses to defeat the city's (and our) objective. Sorry, Emily, but the asbestos tactic will be nothing more than a minor annoyance to a man of his arrogance and apparent financial resources, and the last thing we want to do is appear like radicals willing to lie or break the law to get our way. Our efforts must remain legal. > > So far we have kept all the eggs in one basket. It may be time to shift focus to Gonzales himself and explore ways to incorporate the sign and some of the motel as part of the overall development, as was done successfully in Tulsa with the old public market. Obviously this is not our preferred outcome, but if Gonzales in fact already owns the El Vado, it could be our only hope. It is ludicrous to think he will keep it as an operating motel. > > Regards, > Jim R. > > > Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Brian Kreimendahl Posted June 10, 2006 Report Share Posted June 10, 2006 http://www.kobtv.com/index.cfm?viewer=stor...78&cat=HOME Chavez goes to bat for historic motel Last Update: 10/18/2005 11:54:31 AM By: Reed Upton Albuquerque Mayor Martin Chavez is asking the city's Environmental Protection Commission to save a landmark Route 66 motel from demolition. Chavez says he'll make the request of the commission to save the El Vado Motel as an individual, not as a city official. Last week, the new owner of the El Vado announced that he was planning to raze it and build luxury town homes. Richard Gonzales has said he'll close the motel effective November 1st. Sam Kassam, who ran the motel for 15 years, says he sold it because he can't make it anymore, too many of the motel rooms are unrented. Chavez says if his request to the commission is granted, he'll work with the new owner to preserve the property. "Obviously, we'd like to work with them to see how they can use it beneficially without tearing it down," said Chavez. "Failing that, we'd like to engage other possible owners in the private sector that could use it. Gonzales said he appreciates the historical value of the motel and he's open to other alternatives. The El Vado Motel was built on old Route 66 in 1937 by a former bellboy at the Waldorf-Astoria Hotel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Brian Kreimendahl Posted June 10, 2006 Report Share Posted June 10, 2006 URL: http://www.abqtrib.com/albq/nw_local/artic...4167013,00.html Mayor seeks to protect El Vado By Maggie Shepard and Erik Siemers Albuquerque Tribune Reporters October 18, 2005 The way Mayor Martin Chavez describes it, El Vado Motel is a jewel. "Across the street is one of the finest pieces of architecture coming from the Route 66 genre of motels," Chavez said Monday from the entrance to the Albuquerque Aquarium near Central Avenue. Funny thing is, the guy buying the building thinks the opposite. "I think people are really disappointed when they travel for miles to see it," said Richard Gonzales, who this week is signing the papers to take over the building. "When they do see the structure, they're surprised about how bad it is." It's a real-life story of one man's trash being another man's treasure. Chavez has sent letters to members of the city's Environmental Planning Commission asking them to vote against Gonzales' request to change zoning so he can turn the building into luxury town homes. Chavez sent the letters as a private citizen, he said, not as mayor. The EPC meets Thursday. "It's the best example of Pueblo Deco art in the city," Chavez said. Gonzales plans to close the 68-year-old motel near the biopark Nov. 1 and build $400,000-$600,000 town homes. But Chavez calls the motel beautiful. Route 66 enthusiasts consider it the purest surviving historical motel in Albuquerque. Gonzales admits the building has some qualities Chavez describes. At least it did. "This is an old structure," he said. "It's had a lot of neglect. Old properties are hard to maintain." El Vado is not on the city's historic registry, but Chavez said it is on a national list. On Monday he filed for an application to make it both a state and national historic landmark. The motel was built in 1937 by a former Waldorf-Astoria bellboy. The white adobe building announces itself to passers-by with a six-colored American Indian head. Gonzales said he hasn't decided the fate of the sign. Former motel owner Sam Kassam ran El Vado for 15 years, renting single rooms for about $31. He said he sold it to Gonzales for an undisclosed amount because the business wasn't bringing in a profit. Chavez said he wants to see the motel turn a profit again. His first avenue is to work with Gonzales, he said, but he'll consider working with other developers or using the city's power of eminent domain. Gonzales' application before the EPC seeks to change the zoning from commercial to residential, though he said he can go ahead with the town homes without the change. WHAT'S NEXT What: Environmental Planning Commission Why: Hearing on rezoning El Vado Motel property When: 8:30 a.m. Thursday Where: Plaza del Sol basement hearing room, 600 Second St. N.W. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rudkip@sbcglobal.net> Posted June 11, 2006 Report Share Posted June 11, 2006 The Parkmoor Restaurant in St. Louis is one...the first "drive in" in St. Louis it was...I "think" the very original alignment of Route 66 went past it along Clayton Rd..Tsingtao Kip ps I will support the boycott but film developing will become a bitch! Oh well what is a good boycott if you don't skin your elbows! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Piotrowski" <rt66prods@yahoo.com> To: <AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 10:03 AM Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] Walgreens > I've recently posted a message on my website, www.66productions.com, > asking for a boycott of Walgreens. They have managed to tear down the > Flying Saucer gas station in Ashtabula, OH, in order to expand yet > again. I'm interested, however, in accumulating as lengthy of a list > as possible of the historically significant structures that they > have "replaced" with a Walgreens. If you know of any, please email me > (you can do it through my website) with the name of the business, the > city and state it was in, the type of business, and which highway (US, > state, or county, if applicable) that it was on. Your help on this is > greatly appreciate, and please spread the word. > > Scott Piotrowski > Director, 66 Productions > > > > > > > Visit our homepage at: http://www.mockturtlepress.com > > To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE TOLL-FREE 1-877-285-5434 WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! > Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 3168, Lynnwood, WA 98046-3168 > SUBSCRIPTION RATES: > 1 year (4 issues) for $15.95 > (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) > 2 years (8 issues) for $27.95 > (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) > > > For questions about the list, contact: AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com > > To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.comTo POST a message via e-mail, send it to: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rudkip@sbcglobal.net> Posted June 11, 2006 Report Share Posted June 11, 2006 I agree that, given the disposition of the owner, that any bad resolution of this is possible...however, in my mind, there comes a time when the loss is so significant that we gotta take the risk. One Route 66 icon after another is going by the wayside--Scott just put on line about the destruction of the Flying Saucer Gas Station to build yet another Walgreens. As Ron indicated, the developer has not won the fight yet, and there is support in City Government and in the community to save this place...it may piss the owner off, I don't doubt that, but I am almost to the point that I don't just want Natalie to see an El Vado sign in a museum (frankly, given the demeanor of the owner, I don't think it will be a lot easier saving a piece of it!); I want her to see and stay at the El Vado, like her uncle did 30 years ago on his honeymoon...I would like for her to have seen and stayed at the Coral Courts, like we did on our 1st wedding anniversary, or the A. Lincoln Motel in Springfield...that is not going to happen. I see the Mayor's statement as a positive step--more positive than we have seen in so many cases and I commend him for that...damn the torpedoes, full steam ahead...the El Vado is an institution in its entirety...if we are going to make a stand, we gotta make our stand here. We may win, we may lose, but at least we gave it our all...Tsingtao, respectfully, Kip ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Ross" <pathfinder66@earthlink.net> To: "American Road" <AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 10:21 AM Subject: [AMERICAN_ROAD] El Vado Rescue Effort > Hi Everybody, > > I have been following the El Vado Motel crisis with interest. Of course I wrote my own letter, but after reading the latest article in the Albuq. Journal, I thought it time to throw a few realities on the table. > > Even if the mayor's added influence stops the re-zoning, this does nothing to protect the motel if it is true that the developer already owns it. This is key. He states that he plans to proceed using other options regardless of the outcome to his request. > > As the owner, he can legally do as he wishes with the building, to include turning it into a parking lot. He has already stated that it is an "eyesore" and attracts "transients" and that it would be too expensive to rehab. I predict the city will have great difficulty in legally denying a demolition permit. Even if they do, he can still take down the sign, board up the windows, paint it chartreuse, cover it with a tarp, or employ whatever other means he chooses to defeat the city's (and our) objective. Sorry, Emily, but the asbestos tactic will be nothing more than a minor annoyance to a man of his arrogance and apparent financial resources, and the last thing we want to do is appear like radicals willing to lie or break the law to get our way. Our efforts must remain legal. > > So far we have kept all the eggs in one basket. It may be time to shift focus to Gonzales himself and explore ways to incorporate the sign and some of the motel as part of the overall development, as was done successfully in Tulsa with the old public market. Obviously this is not our preferred outcome, but if Gonzales in fact already owns the El Vado, it could be our only hope. It is ludicrous to think he will keep it as an operating motel. > > Regards, > Jim R. > > > > > > > Visit our homepage at: http://www.mockturtlepress.com > > To subscribe to AMERICAN ROAD magazine, PHONE TOLL-FREE 1-877-285-5434 WITH YOUR ORDER TODAY! > Or send payment to: Mock Turtle Press, PO Box 3168, Lynnwood, WA 98046-3168 > SUBSCRIPTION RATES: > 1 year (4 issues) for $15.95 > (save $3.85 off the newsstand price!) > 2 years (8 issues) for $27.95 > (save $11.65 off the newsstand price!) > > > For questions about the list, contact: AMERICAN_ROAD-owner@yahoogroups.com > > To SUBSCRIBE to this group, send an email to: AMERICAN_ROAD-subscribe@yahoogroups.comTo POST a message via e-mail, send it to: AMERICAN_ROAD@yahoogroups.com > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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